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Old 09-14-2016 | 02:43 PM
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Not sure why some think this is bad. More new hires= more movement for all pilots, especially senior pilots. It's a pretty good deal. Have my interview next week and it would be nice to see some pay and QOL improvements.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm757
Not sure why some think this is bad. More new hires= more movement for all pilots, especially senior pilots. It's a pretty good deal. Have my interview next week and it would be nice to see some pay and QOL improvements.
Imagine that you are a second or third year FO, and now the new hires were making more than you. Experience no longer matters. That is why some people are mad.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 03:00 PM
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Would be nice to hear something... anything really from the MEC... Bueller?
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Old 09-14-2016 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wink
Would be nice to hear something... anything really from the MEC... Bueller?
Yeah, really. I'd just like to know one way or the other.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
Yeah, really. I'd just like to know one way or the other.
Exactly. One thing the MEC is proficient at keeping us out of the loop. Remember the talks of the FO retention bonuses from earlier this year? I think the official word actually came from a MEC rep via Facebook weeks (if not a month) after the deal was struck down.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm really glad the retirement case from 10 years ago is still pending. That was a solid update this morning...

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Old 09-14-2016 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
All I can say is I'm glad you guys aren't running our MEC. We have a lot leverage right now, why waste it on a bonus that only benefits some.
you can't really be this obtuse can you?
its free money
its take it or leave it
it is not negotiating capital, its "advertising" funds
if mec says no (like how they shortsightedly did last time) they just don't get it and pdt continues to stumble along like the undead lagging behind our bigger and better looking sisters

oh i get it, because the captains aren't getting as much, screw the fo's....the old pdt standard
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Old 09-14-2016 | 05:13 PM
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Looks like Envoy got a similar deal to PSA, just got an email from ALPA
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Old 09-14-2016 | 07:49 PM
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Not taking the deal would be a huge mistake on PDT's part... the argument against the old deal not benefiting Everyone was plausible since it was only a FO bonus and the upgrade time was rather low.

This time around, every FO gets a pay bump to the maxed out scale, and a bonus where applicable, and CAs get a bonus too.

Setting PDT so far apart from the other WOs will kill it's desirability... especially since people expect them to be in line with the other WOs. With only one Hub base, if someone is going to commute to work for a WO, why wouldn't they commute to the ones that pay double?
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Old 09-14-2016 | 08:03 PM
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The MEC is meeting with the company soon to discuss. I'd expect something will probably come out of the meetings this time. Honestly I don't really care one way or another. I'm just glad the MEC was trying to get an equitable deal. I never understood why we would incentivize being a first officer, especially at an airline that has very quick upgrades.
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Old 09-15-2016 | 04:15 AM
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The company is meeting with the MEC soon? As in days or weeks?
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