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Old 09-16-2016 | 09:09 AM
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Oh and no surprise, PSA and ENY MECs negotiated their deals without notifying PDT's. Some unity.

There was an opportunity to stand together and actually make meaningful improvements to our CBAs but instead we get these short sided bandaid deals because we don't work together. It's disappointing to see us waste so much negotiating leverage it's Pilots like the whiners above, ready to settle for the quick cash, that make it possible. I mean seriously, these retention bonuses won't even get paid out until next year. What's the rush of trying to get a deal done in a matter of days?
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Old 09-16-2016 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Enough excuses....hurry the hell up boys!!
Why even have a union right?
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Old 09-16-2016 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
Oh and no surprise, PSA and ENY MECs negotiated their deals without notifying PDT's. Some unity.

There was an opportunity to stand together and actually make meaningful improvements to our CBAs but instead we get these short sided bandaid deals because we don't work together. It's disappointing to see us waste so much negotiating leverage it's Pilots like the whiners above, ready to settle for the quick cash, that make it possible. I mean seriously, these retention bonuses won't even get paid out until next year. What's the rush of trying to get a deal done in a matter of days?
lol whiners? quick cash? just riddle me this...how many years does our contract have left? how long will it take to enhance the actual cba? what would we lose in negotiations? more money without losing any of our current contract isnt a win HOW? you wanna play the negotiation game with AAG for the next 3 years be my guest. but they are willing to give extra cash now. each day or year we dont take the cash we lose. youre right its not enhancing the CBA but that doesnt just happen overnight. no we arent whiners. we know what its like to start at 20k a year and id be happy for those behind us to not deal with that.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
Why even have a union right?
Listen pal I'm not discounting the process and believe me I know how these things work more than you know. When the other 2 put us in this position what choice do we have? It's called a competitive disadvantage buddy, and we are on our knees now sucking it like common dime ***** . The only thing I believe we deserve better of the deal is a higher hourly wage than the other 2. We have historically done this as it's not the easiest to hire here.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:28 AM
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Follow up email wasnt very encouraging....
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:36 AM
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Follow up email wasnt very encouraging....
"one does not whip it out and say okay" I guess it depends on how hot the hookers are. LOL I don't even know what to comment about that one.

On a serious note, how about CALLING THE COMPANY and asking to SEE THE PROPOSAL! Ask them to "whip it out" so you can measure up
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
"one does not whip it out and say okay" I guess it depends on how hot the hookers are. LOL I don't even know what to comment about that one.

On a serious note, how about CALLING THE COMPANY and asking to SEE THE PROPOSAL! Ask them to "whip it out" so you can measure up
It's pretty embarrassing to be honest. Every time he opens his mouth i lose a little bit of confidence in the MEC's leadership abilities
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
I'm not discounting the process
Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Enough excuses....hurry the hell up boys!!
LOL

The company started the process, quite informally I might add, Tuesday. The bonus payments don't pay out until next year. What is the rush to get this done in a matter of days versus a matter of weeks?
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
On a serious note, how about CALLING THE COMPANY and asking to SEE THE PROPOSAL! Ask them to "whip it out" so you can measure up
Haha

Did you even read the email? He asked them to "whip it out" and they basically showed him a hand drawn picture.
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Old 09-16-2016 | 10:46 AM
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People, calm down. The proposal has not been turned down or decided on in any manner whatsoever. ALPA is simply waiting on the company to provide the written language so they can review it and, at a minimum, review the fine print. The follow-up clearly stated they were waiting on the proposal. What part of that means that the talks are over?

Perhaps if you took the initiative to pick up the phone and call your representative, you would know that already. You could use that time on the telephone to provide your opinion on the matter, which is the whole point of having a representative in the first place.
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