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Old 08-09-2008 | 06:43 PM
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There could not be a worse time to be stuck at any airline that is having trouble. Jobs are few and far between & nobody is a sure thing any more.
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Old 08-10-2008 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Wannabe
I was furloughed today at 3 p.m. 3 last classes total 49. I hope Mesa can hang in there, but I'm sure they are in the throws!

Best of luck to you and your classmates. I hope you are recalled soon.

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Old 08-10-2008 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by overworked
Hey I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers. I will say though that I've had a lot of friends at other airlines "hang on" for as long as they could, before the ship finally sank. Since they were the last to go, when they got hired at other airlines, they were junior to the people who were junior to them at the original airline.

I just think that you shouldn't go down with a sinking ship. Yes, I know the industry is in shambles from a hiring perspective, but if any of you guys at Mesa have an option to make a lateral move and still stay in the industry, I would consider doing it. Nothing worse than being an F.O. to the guy that was your F.O. at your previous airline.
Mesa is not the only regional struggling right now. Someone could leave Mesa for another and the new company goes under. It is very likely that Mesa will file Chapter 11, but still might recover and move on. I don't think anyone with some seniority should consider moving. No one is safe. All the regionals are dependant on the majors and who knows which major airline will be the next airline to crumble or file Chapter 11. The advantage Mesa has is they have contracts with several different majors.
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Old 08-10-2008 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kersplatt
Mesa is not the only regional struggling right now. Someone could leave Mesa for another and the new company goes under. It is very likely that Mesa will file Chapter 11, but still might recover and move on. I don't think anyone with some seniority should consider moving. No one is safe. All the regionals are dependant on the majors and who knows which major airline will be the next airline to crumble or file Chapter 11. The advantage Mesa has is they have contracts with several different majors.

... by low balling everyone else to get those..
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Old 08-10-2008 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BankAngle09
... by low balling everyone else to get those..
Nature of the contractor's business, my friend. What's important is who can low-ball because they have an efficient business-model that doesn't compromise employee's QOL.
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Old 08-10-2008 | 04:43 PM
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Nature of the contractor's business, my friend. What's important is who can low-ball because they have an efficient business-model that doesn't compromise employee's QOL.
Which is where MESA and ALPA failed miserably. And i know Freedumb didn't help.....
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Old 08-10-2008 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
Which is where MESA and ALPA failed miserably. And i know Freedumb didn't help.....
your right the original "Freedumb" is soley responsible for the ****ty contract currently at mesa

but how does it feel to walk around with such a grudge on your shoulders
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Old 08-10-2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kersplatt
Mesa is not the only regional struggling right now. Someone could leave Mesa for another and the new company goes under. It is very likely that Mesa will file Chapter 11, but still might recover and move on. I don't think anyone with some seniority should consider moving. No one is safe. All the regionals are dependant on the majors and who knows which major airline will be the next airline to crumble or file Chapter 11. The advantage Mesa has is they have contracts with several different majors.



ha ha ya not for long...
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Old 08-10-2008 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CFDoubleeye
Thank yourselves for being rescued from this company! DO NOT APPLY TO OR FLY FOR MESA OR IT'S SUBSIDIARIES!

You just don't understand how bad it hurts the entire industry. The practice of undercutting EVERY other airline in the industry is the reason so many can not get ahead and hire you in the first place. Pay rates are crippled, contracts are held back, and morale is low chiefly because of Mesa's predatory business practices that put many of my friends in the streets in Hawaii.. and several more soon to be on the streets in the Mainland.

Why do you apply to a company when you know it is the WORST one in the business? Why don't you take experienced pilots advice?

There is no fixing Mesa.... but if you go there, don't expect a warm reception at your next airline interview. Any pilot who went there in the last 5 years knows exactly what they are responsible for in the industry.
Respectfully, I doubt you would actually say that if you knew any actual Mesa pilots. There are "LAMA"s at just about every major airline and cargo operators and other "better" regionals as well - Skywest, Republic, etc. Also with the new TA that is presented there is hope for Mesa to improve their QOL. I wish them the best.
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Old 08-10-2008 | 06:27 PM
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If Mesa files Chapter 11. Then will Delta, Airways and the others be able to pull their contract?
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