and the point?

attack the message, not the messenger. You only attack the messenger, when you CAN'T attack the message.....

 

The more I see the " My company is better than your company" and all the problems that mergers and acquisitions do to pilot groups in this industry, the more I think that the "pilot guild" with a national seniority list sounds like a good idea. If everyone got their seniority number the moment they were hired on 121 and joined the guild, there would be not list merger issues.

If the payscales were national, you would not see regional airlines taking over the market with their low costs, since they could not pay peanuts anymore. Instead of bean counting the costs of labor, they would probably focus more on service and fuel costs...

I might be wrong, and am open to enlightment....

 

Where do I sign?

 

Going back to the OP, as a Midwest pilot I just wanted to say thank you, in fact all the RAH pilots have been nothing but a class act.

Also the IBT have been in direct contact with our MEC and both pilot groups are on the same page.

Its NOT the fault of any Republic pilot, they are just like us, being used by our respective management.

Remember, we are all ON THE SAME SIDE. Its management that we need to direct our anger toward.

Midwest pilots are way too smart and professional to figure who to blame in the current situation.

 

There is a name for the pilots at your "company", trust me every time we pass you in fox alley and shake our head at you guys thats what is being thought. Dont forget who you are.

 

If you want to say something then say it. Otherwise dont use innuendo, When hiding behind you screen name.

 

Hey guys.. play nice! This is not the thread to bash pilots of any company. We all need to unite instead....

 

Midwest pilot's should have seen this coming when Skywest came on the block...

I truly feel for the Midwest pilots. Ideed, I lost my job as a result of Midwest's mismanagement as well. But the union should have spoken up then as it was the start of the end of a great airline.

Makes an Airtran deal sound pretty good in hindsight.

 

Honestly I am 2nd year and going to make $40k, not great but I sure couldn't do it delivering pizzas or making $12 and hour at home depot. First year sucks, ask the new hires at continental about the $25 an hour they make. We get it!

 

I just joined the forums tonight, and happened upon this Topic.

I have been a Midwest First Officer for 8.5 years. This next month in October I will be furloughed again, for the 3rd time in 8 years.

Our 717's are disappearing and 273 out of 400 total pilots are being furloughed along with close to 300+ flight attendants.

16 of our 25 717's are being returned to Boeing. The remaining nine I believe are on temporary lease.

In June 08, our Management came to us and asked the Senior Captains that would be remaining after the record furlough to take a 50% paycut, which would put the Max pay for a Captain after the cut to $87/hour.

They asked the Junior Seniority Captains that would be downgraded to the right seat for a 72% paycut. 72% !!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT !
How about Full pay till the last day...!!!

Management said that if we did not agree to this "Fair & Equitable" request, then Midwest would have to file Chapter 11. So the pilot group, said (FU)
go ahead and file, because NO Judge would ever grant a 72% paycut to a union group. So the final due date came and went, and then it was announced ( 3 months later) that the 717's would be leaving and that Republic would be coming in to fly our routes until Midwest could replace most of us with the Republic crews for only 8 months to a year.

This is in direct violation with our contract.
Midwest cannot have a company come in longer than 6 months and fly our routes, AND furlough at the same time.

When I found out that another company's pilots were coming in to take my job I was angry. When I found out that Republic was represented by the teamsters, I was furious.

Our Management using another Union Company to force us out of work and to take a 72% pay cut..

What is your company telling you?

What is your Union telling you?

I know you start service on OCT 1st....

While my Brothers are getting pink slips..



Maybe we can work together for the benefit of us all...