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Old 10-06-2008 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
or is it when you are willing to fly 170s with MidWest passengers in the back?
Before you go making those kinds of statements you should read the opinions around here or see the official statements of both unions. Though to be fair when you fly for any codeshare you have their pax in the back.
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Old 10-06-2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
I didn't engage in a debate. I said I like the setup over at skywest.
Is it a set up or a contract? I think you are STILL confused.

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Skywest has the best contract around. I'd take it in a heartbeat over anyone's.
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You tried to make it a debate. Congrats on all the benign issues!
Not really, you simply didn't know what you were talking about but thought you did.

And for the THIRD time, show me where I said what you thought I said.

Or can you?
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Old 10-06-2008 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
Is it a set up or a contract? I think you are STILL confused.
For the second time I could care less. Sorry that bothers you so much.... Not really. I'm not going to waste time searching. I know you would if the shoe were on the other foot but I'm not as interested in making someone eat their words.
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Old 10-06-2008 | 04:50 PM
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vote no raise the bar = xjt going out of business and another lower paying & lower qol regional gladly picking up the flying

fellow pilots at other companies have not left us a choice or a leg to stand on. We have to be more competitive with cheaper airlines. We all knew we couldnt keep industry leading pay and work rules while other airlines were gladly accepting 1 or 2% raises yr over yr (not even keeping up with inflation) and getting overides to fly larger equipment??? As long as places LIKE colgan exist and their pilots have no problem with flying larger and larger equipment for less and less and have no clue what work rules at a 121 carrier should be... this is going to be a recurring theme for regional airlines. Survival of the crappiest pay and work rules.

There is an unstoppable flow of new, niave, and ignorant pilots who will fly whatever you want for whatever you want to pay as long as your willing to give them a shot. We all have to start somewhere but theres a right way and a wrong way to do it.
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Old 10-06-2008 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
I'll put it simply for you. If the company is telling us the truth that we will lose $35 million and they will go Bankrupt. Going bankrupt would more than likely lead to another regional replacing our flying. So I hope you can understand most of us at ExpressJet DO NOT want to have pilots from those regionals telling us to VOTE NO or not. Leave the decision up to us.

Now if we take these cuts and our profit sharing goes up drastically, any profit over $30 million results in 50% give back to the employees and anything over $90 million results in a complete snapback. Plus our management have already taken a 10% paycut and they can not give themselves ANY RAISES until we get our pay back. If they give themselves a raise, we get FULL SNAPBACK
Spoken like a true "company man"..
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Old 10-06-2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Before you go making those kinds of statements you should read the opinions around here or see the official statements of both unions. Though to be fair when you fly for any codeshare you have their pax in the back.
Thats my point Toilet, like the Gov't bailing out the banks, like Republic pilots flying the 170's for Midwest (Labor laws) and like us potentially taking cuts, its ugly, its not fair, it should be illegal but it seems to be necessary, unfortunately the Republic guys can't just go on strike, much like I dont think we here at XJT hhave much of a choice..........
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Old 10-06-2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
For the second time I could care less. Sorry that bothers you so much.... Not really. I'm not going to waste time searching. I know you would if the shoe were on the other foot but I'm not as interested in making someone eat their words.
I think it has more to do with the FACT that you can't back up something you said.
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Old 10-06-2008 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
I think it has more to do with the FACT that you can't back up something you said.
Or that I don't care. <--Read it and understand.


SAAB I agree with you 100%. Whatever the circumstances if it's voted yes than XJT just joined the rest of the regionals on the moral playing field. It's all fair game let whoever can get the lowest cost wins.
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Old 10-06-2008 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Or that I don't care. <--Read it and understand.
Sure, that's why you wrote it
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Old 10-06-2008 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
Sure, that's why you wrote it
LOL ok go ahead and put one in your win column then sport.
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