" The 80% WILL be gone. Delta has no other choice.



See the above. Delta is holding a gun to ASA's head right now and saying "let's negotiate".




I really don't think that skywest/ASA will cave on this. Why would they, all the other contracts delta has tried to cancel (mesa/pinnacle) haven't worked out the way Delta management had hoped. Why would they give to this? xj gets the growth that they could have given to us per the contract!

 

Thanks for restating my confusion more perfectly zayo. Spot on.

 

Amen to that.........I was thinking the same thing. People are speaking as if Delta was in bankruptcy. It's hardly that situation. There are a lot of contacts and clauses that do actually protect pilots.

There would be some serious lawsuit action if all you "Nostradamus" thinkers are right. ASA's money is Skywests money. The contract at ASA had to be approved by JA not just ASA for that reason. Do you think Jerry would allow Delta to do what everyone is claiming they are going to having approved the scope clause at ASA. I'm sure you are familiar with it as I won't bore anyone. I understand JP's frustration with the whole ATR displacement and I don't have much to say about that but rather than assuming only bad plots are afoot, you never know if it could be a good thing.

If you truly think we are doomed why sit on a sinking ship delaying the inevitiable while there are smaller boats and some bigger just floating all around you offering help?

 

So then where are our aircraft to make up for the 80% and the minimum aircraft....both of which we no longer meet?

 

MAYBe....... We will get some more CRJs once the ATRs are all gone??? i dunno..... Only time will tell.

 

When Jerry Atkins came by our groundschool class he said that ASA/Skywest is right at the 80% mark and that they had to give Delta a "friendly reminder"
about that.

If Delta plans to expand ATL like they say they will under the "New Delta" something HAS to come our way. Only time will tell....

 

Management has said publicly that the excess costs of flight crew overstaffing are on us. I have no reason to believe that they are not being truthful.


It takes two to negotiate. Delta may not have a choice given their growth plans, but SkyWest sure does. You think they're going to voluntarily sign away their biggest protection?

I don't think being replaced by SkyWest is an option. If they were getting the growth then maybe I'd see your side, but all the growth is going away from SkyWest, Inc.

Delta is realizing that SkyWest, Inc. is too big of a player in the DCI game. We control 55% of the daily flights pre-merger. Delta can't cut our operation down (at least as long as our performance metrics stay high), and the only thing they can do is spread the flying out more to reduce our stranglehold.

I think, personally, that ASA wants out of the station staffing business. When we ran the ATL ramp it was different, and we had economies of scale there. Now that we have to manage 30 or so stations, it increases our costs with no real benefit. Easier to just pay the $300 or so per flight, which Delta would pay anyway.

We're not an airline, anyway. We're a contract lift provider. I see us going to a RAH model where we just fly and have a management structure as lean as possible to just support our primary business.

Bottom line is, we have a contract until 2020. It can only be cancelled for certain reasons, and Delta not liking us isn't one of them.

 

Don't forget, if Delta hands more flying to Skywest/ASA due to the 80%, Skywest will most likely keep any new planes on their side, with ASA once again taking a kick to the nuggets.

Just a benefit of being their *****, I guess.

 

We are SKYWEST's spare parts airline.....

 

I'll believe it when I see it....