Poor us (ASA)
11-02-2008 | 11:01 PM
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11-03-2008 | 02:24 AM
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I was told because of the cost of getting us back and sending us back to sims for recurrent and a few days of ground would cost the company more. But I also was told that if you are furloughed for less then 3 months then under 121 you can just go back to the line right away. Not sure.... 
11-03-2008 | 02:58 AM
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I hate to tell you this, but I have lots of flies on the wall in the GO and all my flies are telling me the furloughable pilots will be furloughed in January or February unless something changes. You may feel differently about this issue, and perhaps even agree wit us come March.
As the guy above said, we literally used to fly coast to coast at ASA. You could fly a 4 day trip and see two oceans, Canada, and the Gulf of Mexico. Now all we see is Des Moines, Fayetteville, and Omaha. All the old routes we used to so have not been dropped... they are being done by other carriers. It is aggravating
As the guy above said, we literally used to fly coast to coast at ASA. You could fly a 4 day trip and see two oceans, Canada, and the Gulf of Mexico. Now all we see is Des Moines, Fayetteville, and Omaha. All the old routes we used to so have not been dropped... they are being done by other carriers. It is aggravating
I know our contract has language protecting us from the ‘F’ word, but I’m also sure Delta and Sky West Inc. have plenty of well paid lawyers who can find crafty ways around this if need be.
11-03-2008 | 03:07 AM
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Not really sure myself - I was thinking that if they sent out letters now, they could bring a lot us back in steps come spring when our recurrent ground and our PC is due anyway. I can't imagine that would cost anything for them or that they would be required to do any more than that. Dunno though.
11-03-2008 | 03:15 AM
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I’d have to side with Pennekamp on this one. I think your living in denial if you think we’ve safely passed through the potential furlough window. I heard the company would be having high level meeting with Big-D in late October or early November. I was told the current pilot surplus (which I heard is around 150 to 200 pilots) is going to be on top of their list for discussion. If the outcome of these meeting is not good, it might be a week or two before it filters down to us, and this would be more in-line with Pennekamp remarks.
I know our contract has language protecting us from the ‘F’ word, but I’m also sure Delta and Sky West Inc. have plenty of well paid lawyers who can find crafty ways around this if need be.
I know our contract has language protecting us from the ‘F’ word, but I’m also sure Delta and Sky West Inc. have plenty of well paid lawyers who can find crafty ways around this if need be.
11-03-2008 | 03:19 AM
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I know our contract has language protecting us from the ‘F’ word, but I’m also sure Delta and Sky West Inc. have plenty of well paid lawyers who can find crafty ways around this if need be.
While I'm hoping that ASA will stick to never furloughing, I also came into this industry with the expectation that I will be furloughed a couple of times.Like daniel, I'd just like to know, one way or another.
11-03-2008 | 04:15 AM
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I hate to tell you this, but I have lots of flies on the wall in the GO and all my flies are telling me the furloughable pilots will be furloughed in January or February unless something changes. You may feel differently about this issue, and perhaps even agree wit us come March.
As the guy above said, we literally used to fly coast to coast at ASA. You could fly a 4 day trip and see two oceans, Canada, and the Gulf of Mexico. Now all we see is Des Moines, Fayetteville, and Omaha. All the old routes we used to so have not been dropped... they are being done by other carriers. It is aggravating
As the guy above said, we literally used to fly coast to coast at ASA. You could fly a 4 day trip and see two oceans, Canada, and the Gulf of Mexico. Now all we see is Des Moines, Fayetteville, and Omaha. All the old routes we used to so have not been dropped... they are being done by other carriers. It is aggravating
11-03-2008 | 05:32 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Don't blame ASA-ALPA for SkyWest's decision to engage in self help. Would you have preferred a pay cut in order to undercut SkyWest's pilots?
SkyWest did strip ASA's pre-existing orders. Be angry at Jerry for that.
SkyWest did strip ASA's pre-existing orders. Be angry at Jerry for that.
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