Disabled Saab in IAH
12-13-2008 | 06:51 AM
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From: maddoggy dog
I've never flown a saab but I did have to bus my pax back to the gate when I flew the Brasilia. A brake was dragging while we taxied and a fuse plug blew. Kinda hard to drag a plane with a flat tire. Took 80%+ torque just to get the thing off to the side of the taxiway. Made some nice skid marks though!!
12-13-2008 | 11:51 AM
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From: fins to the left, fins to the right
You don't need the left side to taxi. Override works just fine. My point about the 9 out of 10 captains is based on the fact IOE instuctors didn't teach it several years ago. Maybe it has changed. I do know some of the street captains had their FOs taxi so they would be able to when they upgraded.
12-13-2008 | 06:13 PM
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From: 717 FO >>>> 737 FO
12-13-2008 | 07:03 PM
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Of course there are many other reasons to stop as well. Whatever the case, better safe than sorry.
12-13-2008 | 07:18 PM
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A loss of nose wheel steering, due to a Hydraulic problem, would definitely do it.
I think that's what you meant.
Nosewheel steering is an MEL item, but having it fail on a taxi due to unknown causes, even with a remote chance it's related to hydraulics, is discretionary to the captain.
Good judgement would be to error on the side of caution though and get towed in, but every situation is different.
I think that's what you meant.
Nosewheel steering is an MEL item, but having it fail on a taxi due to unknown causes, even with a remote chance it's related to hydraulics, is discretionary to the captain.
Good judgement would be to error on the side of caution though and get towed in, but every situation is different.
12-14-2008 | 08:41 AM
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12-14-2008 | 11:28 AM
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Don't ever let management weenies strong arm you into a bad decision.
12-14-2008 | 12:06 PM
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Yes, always. I don't care what management wants when it is contrary to safety. If they threaten you, that's when you go to the FAA. If your decisions are in the interest of safety, you have a leg to stand on.
Don't ever let management weenies strong arm you into a bad decision.
Don't ever let management weenies strong arm you into a bad decision.
SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY first!! ... I don't give flippin rat's a$$ what management says or does to me in the event I have to make a call that would cease the operation of an aircraft for safety reasons. If they really want to attack me for making a call that would end up saving the lives of 34 pax + 3 crew let them at it, and bring in the FAA ... let's see who wins that fight. In the event I would loose my job because I made a call like that, I would much rather do that than loose my license because I was an idiot and continued on with a known problem that affected the safety of the flight.
12-14-2008 | 12:29 PM
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Well spoken IQUITEAGLE ...
SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY first!! ... I don't give flippin rat's a$$ what management says or does to me in the event I have to make a call that would cease the operation of an aircraft for safety reasons. If they really want to attack me for making a call that would end up saving the lives of 34 pax + 3 crew let them at it, and bring in the FAA ... let's see who wins that fight. In the event I would loose my job because I made a call like that, I would much rather do that than loose my license because I was an idiot and continued on with a known problem that affected the safety of the flight.
SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY first!! ... I don't give flippin rat's a$$ what management says or does to me in the event I have to make a call that would cease the operation of an aircraft for safety reasons. If they really want to attack me for making a call that would end up saving the lives of 34 pax + 3 crew let them at it, and bring in the FAA ... let's see who wins that fight. In the event I would loose my job because I made a call like that, I would much rather do that than loose my license because I was an idiot and continued on with a known problem that affected the safety of the flight.
12-14-2008 | 12:51 PM
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Again ... I stick with my previous statement ... I don't give a sh1t what anyone says about a call I make to keep a plane full of people safe. If I have to make a call that grounds an airplane, so be it. Every situation is unique to that specific flight, and the captain that makes the "go/no-go" decision is in charge with no limitations to his authority. These Saabs are old and things do happen with old planes ... especially ones as complicated as these.
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