DAL4EVER

If true, there are absolutely parallels to Pinnacle's crash. I believe the article is raising the possibility that the crew may have not added power and allowed the airplane to slow to stick shaker/pusher activation. The report indicates the Captain may have pulled back on the stick (natural reaction when the nose drops suddenly). This could have led to a full stall which is the same thing that happened in the Pinnacle crash. Pilot response following stick shaker/pusher induced the stall. I believe that is what the article is insinuating. As I posted previously, the information coming to light is indicating why crews need to remain vigilant during all phases of flight and always fly the airplane.

brianb

Its what people do. Its just a way of talking it out and maybe, just maybe, coming up with a reason, good or bad. No blame, just talk.

JoeyMeatballs

I agree, if they did get slow, they both may have been looking at a chart discussing something, you just never know...............I Would love to hear an NTSB briefing right now, all the news channels are to consumed with the White trash lady and her 14 kids..............

utedrummer

Im impressed the CA was able to overpower the stick-pusher, everytime i do it in the sim it pulls me outta my seat, i dont think i could over-power it with my feet braced on the panel (but then again, I am weak...)

Squawk_5543

You could if you were in the real airplane tumbling to the ground.....trust me.

JoeyMeatballs

well...................the ADRENALINE that pumps through your body when you are looking at the ground in an airplane can do some AMAZAING things. I am not trying to be funny the human body is an amazing machine and FIGHT or FLIGHT is an amazing chemical reaction in the body

DAL4EVER

Overpowering the pusher is easy. The problem is that after spending years in a training department, every time I'd watch a pilot try and override the pusher, they invariably went into a series of PIO where they were fighting the pusher (yolk going forward and back) until ground impact. Not knowing the Q I can't specify how its pusher works, but in other planes I've flown that had it, the pusher worked off AOA. The only way to cancel the pusher is to reduce AOA unless you do a pusher override. When the oscillations begin most pilots don't think of pushing forward and reducing AOA especially if they are close to the ground.

utedrummer

Of course I agree with that, i am just always amazed at the force of the stick-pusher in the sim and honestly I'M IMPRESSED that he could pull it back!

milky

What exactly is a 'pre madonna?'

Is that before material girl?

TPROP4ever

Geez are you friggin kidding me, Im refering to how hard it is to survive these days at a regional, while constantly being under a microscope, for boaderline minimum wages, why because we are all serious about what we do, so at least have some respect for the crew. If they made a mistake, we will find out about it, and it is up to all of us to re evaluate how we react to similar situations, in the interest of safety. But for God sakes, at least let the the info come out before speculating about how to correct it. Ill go out on a limb here and say, Im sure that flight crew wasnt trying to crash an airplane... Mabye it was pilot error, and if so you need to realize you, and all of us are capable of making one too, we are human, that is why we have to evaluate the FACTS and learn from them, so have some respect...Lets all learn from this tragedy, AFTER the facts are known..