Staple them to the bottom of comair. And in an effort to conserve money they can keep getting paid mesaba wages!! Do we really think this will happen??

 

Here is my opinion,

In the event of a merger between these 2 companies, the furloughed guys will be "stapled to the bottom", I'm willing to let an attorney pour over our contract -Comair- to see if there are grounds for a class action lawsuit on the basis there will be more junior people at than those furloughed. I may be wrong, but that strikes me as an unfair labor practice amongst other things, if the more junior people are allowed to stay while some folks are on furlough. I understand there are circumstances where this has happened before, however I believe not one of those times was ever challenged in court -to my knowledge-. And if there's something a lawyer likes more than challenge an unprecedented "law", and make money while at it, I don't know what it is.

For you attorneys out there, please tell me what's wrong with this. Keep in mind, this is just a progressing thought and happens to be my stern opinion.
Thanks.

 

I'm a recovering lawyer, but not a labor lawyer and have little practical knowledge of union/management practices.....nonetheless my "legal" instincts say that the union(s) would have to agree to any list integration deal and that if they agree the members are stuck with the terms of the deal.

I suspect a suit against ALPA concerning their conflicts in representing mainline and regionals would be more fertile area for litigation.

 

If this were to happen, my opinion is that it would be based on relative position with fences very similar to the Delta / NWA deal.

900 Captains at Mesaba would not be affected with fence restrictions on the more senior Comair group and upgrades would have fences as well.

 

Oh great and then itll be here we go again, another two pilot group one of which is angry and hates the other, I can see the boards now, all Mesaba FOs are pseudo scabs, they stole the jobs that belonged to commairs furloughs...or it might be a comair furlough displaced me and stole my job...and another whipsaw would begin. No matter what happens if they merge, someone is going to get screwed, and someone will wake up and say what the heck just happened, and why does everyone else hate me...same ol story..same ol song and dance, not that I believe ALPA would "Ever " allow somthing like this to happen...lmao
Which is precisely why I preach try to do your best and if your lucky youll be a happy airline pilot, at this level boys and girls your skills and work ethic mean nothing.,..LUCK does..but i digress

 

The Mesaba seniority list is already a complete mess in itself. I doubt management could deal with a merger between comair and XJ. For instance, I'm an Aug 05 hire and DTW 900 CA. All 200 captains are senior to me, as well as several hundred Saab captains. If you combine the two list by any means, ratio or DOH, the senior aircraft will be the 200 and not the 700 or 900. Since XJ has blended rates for FO's, the 900 FO's are the most junior FO's. So the most senior FO position would also be the 200. So, if DAL decides to park any 200's, the entire seniority list is displaced, with the exception of the top 50 only.

 

Wow, sounds like things are a mess, I have abuddy out of DTW on the saab, that went to mesaba in OCT after he got furloughed, Man I hope his job is safe.

 

It is a mess, consider that about 50% of the 200 CA's are on reserve. The company is unable to displace any of them because the training events generated are far more expensive than the cost of paying the extra salaries. So they are sitting about 30% fat on 200 CA's and ignoring it.

So I guess the point is, it's better to just shut down XJ or CA and distribute the planes among the other regionals, than it would be to merger the companies. However, I think that's unlikely the case, so in my opinion, the status quo will continue.

 

It's probably just better to operate Compass, Mesaba and Comair as separate entities. Since we as labor, do not make up the entire cost of the operation a lot of efficiencies can be gained by streamlining the back of the house functions for DCI.

To start... get rid of that monstrous headquarters building Comair has at CVG! Comair certainly doesn't have to be headquartered in CVG to have a base there. There is a lot of real estate in MSP as DL and NWA merge the operations, there would be plenty of room for XJ, CP and OH to be headquartered in MSP. It makes no sense to pay for facilities that are redundant, which includes the XJ Go.

All they have to do is join forces for everything that they can and then keep separate what they have to maintain separate certificates. There can be one massive SOC with separate Comair, Mesaba and Compass areas. One massive GO, with separate areas for each airline for the functions that must remain separate. They can basically stop short of merging the 3 wholly owned carriers and gain tons of efficiency, cut costs still keep us separate for the sake of mgmt flexibility (whipsaw).

 

The title is partially correct just eliminate a couple letters.
Comair/Mesa Merged Seniority List.

Watch and see.