The type of Airline Pilots we have become
#171
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 384
No I paid to be trained (PFT your right thats what I did). I was paid during an internship(250 hrs)
#172
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 19
hahaha, paid to be trained? Last time I check when I got in the rightseat of the my 121 company it was called IOE. And yes they(the company) paid me to fly passengers around. But you are right on one thing, I had an internship where the company taught me how to fly. But in my case they PAID for my internship. NICE concept isn't it?
#174
I believe that in the 2000 time frame, those numbers came down to 4-500 TT, 12-1500 TPIC, and 2 type ratings.
#175
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: 747 FO
Posts: 937
No I paid to be trained (PFT your right thats what I did). I was paid during an internship(250 hrs), and I in turn recieved a job offer, like many others, by working hard, and getting some line captains to write a letter of recomendation for me. I didnt warm the right seat, I flew every other leg during my 250, w/o auto pilot or FMS, but Im tired of saying that over and over, some people just have tunnel vision...no sense arguing with them.
Since you drank the Kool Aid and they have your money, yes, the "program" worked very well. BTW; Being a professional pilot is not a "program", junior. Wait! You're not even a "junior" since you were never an airline pilot.
Oh? What other "121 op" have you worked for that you could draw such a comparison?
I'm sure there are a bunch of good guys at GIA.....the ones that didn't buy their ride.
You're not getting flamed at all. You're just being corrected by people that actually care about the integrity of the profession......something you know nothing about. Apparently, you don't even care to know anything about professionalism. See? Professionals actually get paid to to work, not buy a ride and pay more than a passenger to occupy a seat that is normally occupied by someone that actually gets paid to work.
If I ever have a GIA badged pilot that requests a jumpseat, I am going to ask questions. If I find that the GIA pilot participated in "the program", they'll have to find another ride.
Last edited by Zapata; 03-10-2009 at 12:18 AM.
#176
Gulfstream style PFJ is a bad way to enter the biz. We have Tprop here trying to paint it in the best light he can put fourth. He's done about as good a job as I've seen since the blight of PFJ has been on us. But, in the end, I find no reason to sway on my opinion of Gulfstream's "buy an airline pilot job" program.
Gulfstream's scheme of buying your way into a 121 airline pilot job is a bad deal for our profession. It lowers the bar in a profession that is seeing constant attacks from all directions and makes a mockery of the process of becoming an airline pilot.
There are few things I'd call a fellow pilot out for, but this is one. Make no bones about it. People that enter the biz via Gulfstream need to be educated on the harm this does to the profession.
Gulfstream's scheme of buying your way into a 121 airline pilot job is a bad deal for our profession. It lowers the bar in a profession that is seeing constant attacks from all directions and makes a mockery of the process of becoming an airline pilot.
There are few things I'd call a fellow pilot out for, but this is one. Make no bones about it. People that enter the biz via Gulfstream need to be educated on the harm this does to the profession.
#177
Gulfstream style PFJ is a bad way to enter the biz. We have Tprop here trying to paint it in the best light he can put fourth. He's done about as good a job as I've seen since the blight of PFJ has been on us. But, in the end, I find no reason to sway on my opinion of Gulfstream's "buy an airline pilot job" program.
Gulfstream's scheme of buying your way into a 121 airline pilot job is a bad deal for our profession. It lowers the bar in a profession that is seeing constant attacks from all directions and makes a mockery of the process of becoming an airline pilot.
There are few things I'd call a fellow pilot out for, but this is one. Make no bones about it. People that enter the biz via Gulfstream need to be educated on the harm this does to the profession.
Gulfstream's scheme of buying your way into a 121 airline pilot job is a bad deal for our profession. It lowers the bar in a profession that is seeing constant attacks from all directions and makes a mockery of the process of becoming an airline pilot.
There are few things I'd call a fellow pilot out for, but this is one. Make no bones about it. People that enter the biz via Gulfstream need to be educated on the harm this does to the profession.
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