BURflyer

that's because Expressjet is an ATP alumni re-union. go to atp.com and look at the testimonials there are like a million exjet hires. However, I would have to disagree with you, as much as all those you tube videos of emory driblle idiots prove your point, it's impossible to say that ATP turns out better pilots than emory dribble.

Excel

The problem is, these guys that get into aviation probably don’t know any pilots, aren’t related to any pilots, and do little to zero investigation on the best way to pursue their career. They pick up Flying magazine and see those nice ads with the picture of boy wonder sitting in the flight deck giving the good ‘ol thumbs up. They call these places and they are convinced that it is the fastest, cheapest, least amount of BS way to get to an airline. Enough said, just hand mom and dad the bill. They don’t know any better and they don’t know anything about putting in your dues. Oh well.

TPROP4ever

Well obviously you havnt read my posts in other forums. #1 I didnt pay for my job, i paid for the training I needed to get there...period, you dont have to believe it, or accept it, but it is fact. You like to spend time not knowing about what you speak of, thats fine, I dont answer to you. I did my investigation, the program I did was highly recommended by my flight instructor, who happens to be a captain, chief of training and check airman at his charter outfit. I sincerely trust his judgement more than yours, and Ive only ever had two pilots even comment about it to my face, funny there were 700hr cfi wonders at a party, who thought they knew it all. I have absolutly no problem with the path I took, you do your thing, Ill do mine, the only people I answer to is myself, pilots I know and "respect", and my customers. Hmmm seems odd that none of them have a problem...you guys can scream, kick close our eyes and say the sky is purple all you want, I happen to know its still blue, Ive beat my head up a brick wall trying to explain that but hey keep up that(" us against them attitude"), I'm sure it boads well on those interviews, ever wonder why you didnt get called for a job when someone with lower time did, one word, ATTITUDE..

TPROP4ever

I happen to be 40 spent a total of 47k from day one, including GIA, ( all my wifes and my money) I worked for flight time, bartered with flight instructors, and flew every chance I had with my local EAA chapter in a very wide array of experimental aircraft building time, flying with friends and working on planes with people who have a true passion for aviation. Ive spent time helping guys build, you will learn a lot more about what it is you fly if you see it in pieces. I spent 4 years getting to where I am, and I did work my butt off, and I am extremely proud of what I have accomplished. Next on my agenda is my CFI ratings, not because I have to to get a 121 gig but because I want to pass somthing on, and then my degree and A/P. So whats your idea of paying your dues, 160 grand at ERAU and then CFI for peanuts for 2 or more years...hoping some student doesnt kill you, passing on a unrecognized negative attitude to your students because you really dont want to be there in the first place, and then you go to an airline and hope and pray that you are prepared for the 121 training thats about to smack you in the forhead...to each their own. Im not saying any one way is better, both work and as such both are subject to abuse, but dont rule PFT out...again that word..ATTITUDE, life is what you make it.

Excel

My previous post was not aimed at you, or anyone in particular. I do not know how you, or anyone else on this board got to where they are today.

I was sharing my opinion that, some people jump into PFJ’s and do not have any clue that they are damaging our profession. And I am sure there are those that have chose that route, with full knowledge that it is a sham, and do not care who they have to step over or how low in drives the bar, as long as they get to an airline job as soon as possible.

TPROP4ever

Yeah I was revising my post because I realized it sounded like I thought you meant that, I didnt, I actually understood what you were saying, I just used your quote as a referance to dispel the belief that all PFT people used mom and dads money. My point was that PFT and CFI routes both work, and as such are both subject to abuse, by some trying to cut corners, but too many pilots are quick to judge this program or that without all the facts...and I got on a rant more from a post above yours..

JetPipeOverht

Dispel, not dispell.....understand, not understood, mom and dad's money- that's your problem to deal with, starting a run-on sentence with BUT, that's yours......enjoy your furlough....and I hope to never run into you. Moderators, you know me, bring it on

TPROP4ever

WOW...scary. Lets see if I can get this gramaticaly correct. " Curious how that quick trip to the CL worked out for you?" So if I hadn't gone PFT, would I have to get a SJS rating to fly an RJ?

JetPipeOverht

Ahh lets not get into this, cause I clearly don't understand your response. I hope you get a job soon and this entire industry fixes itself..

rickB

whats wrong with ipods and backpacks welcome to the 21st century