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03-26-2009, 10:28 AM
#31
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Position: EMB-145 FO
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ATR staffing is a mess right now but there are still at least 20 FO's and 20 CA's that haven't finished training. I have been saying for at least the last 3 weeks that I thought furloughs were going to be coming soon. ATR reliability is waaay down (thanks to a few CAs that write up ridiculous crap). One ATR had 5 air interrupts in a week (DFW ATR guys know what I'm talking about). I think ATR block hours in DFW are going to be cut because it hasn't been as reliable in DFW as it is in SJU and MIA. Some of the write-ups are legit and others are just pure BS. That's my .02.
03-26-2009, 10:43 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: ATR
Posts: 347
ATR staffing is a mess right now but there are still at least 20 FO's and 20 CA's that haven't finished training. I have been saying for at least the last 3 weeks that I thought furloughs were going to be coming soon. ATR reliability is waaay down (thanks to a few CAs that write up ridiculous crap). One ATR had 5 air interrupts in a week (DFW ATR guys know what I'm talking about). I think ATR block hours in DFW are going to be cut because it hasn't been as reliable in DFW as it is in SJU and MIA. Some of the write-ups are legit and others are just pure BS. That's my .02.
03-26-2009, 11:29 AM
#33
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Position: EMB-145 FO
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If the Captian can write it up, he has a responsibility to do so. We have gotten so used to "failed in flight" that we are losing sight of what should be done. I flew with said captain and every write-up while trivial was definitely legit. If it is nothing then maintenance will close with a "noted" or something like that. If we don't write all these little things up they add up to make a day's worth of maintenance. Not to mention the lives put to risk for some of these write-ups. I don't want to start a fight in any means, just stating my perspective on passenger safety. I hope all ends well with this "imminent furlough".
03-26-2009, 11:44 AM
#35
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Position: ATR
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I don't think I worded my thoughts correctly. SOME write-ups put lives a risk, some put your cert. at risk. Window shades are a perfect example. Have to be written up, but wouldn't hurt anybody to leave it broke. Blame the FAA not the crew. They were doing what was necessary to stay out of trouble. Sorry I didn't word that correctly, my bad. They are silly write-ups in the end.
03-26-2009, 11:56 AM
#36
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I don't think I worded my thoughts correctly. SOME write-ups put lives a risk, some put your cert. at risk. Window shades are a perfect example. Have to be written up, but wouldn't hurt anybody to leave it broke. Blame the FAA not the crew. They were doing what was necessary to stay out of trouble. Sorry I didn't word that correctly, my bad. They are silly write-ups in the end.
440 flipped out on me last night during the landing rollout. It's getting bad. Be safe.
03-26-2009, 01:45 PM
#37
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: A320 starboard... Arrrr
Posts: 520
Thats a great answer for the school house. There is school house logic and line logic. There certainly are things that can be overlooked. This sounds bad, but in reality, its the way it is. The system is not perfect but sometimes it is our job to complete the mission. Obviously this is a controversial statement, but its just how it works.
03-26-2009, 03:24 PM
#38
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I will say I am very skeptical of post #22. I have searched all over ALPA, AEPA, and Googled several excerpts from post #22 and the only thing that comes up is this airlinepilotforums.com post#22. If this information was out yet I think it would be posted and available elsewhere. Plus I am on the ALPA email list and the ALPA emails I received up to today has nothing about furlough.
Not to say furlough isn't imminent, I just dont see any proof to back up AmericanEagleFO's post.
Not to say furlough isn't imminent, I just dont see any proof to back up AmericanEagleFO's post.
03-26-2009, 04:27 PM
#39
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I will say I am very skeptical of post #22. I have searched all over ALPA, AEPA, and Googled several excerpts from post #22 and the only thing that comes up is this airlinepilotforums.com post#22. If this information was out yet I think it would be posted and available elsewhere. Plus I am on the ALPA email list and the ALPA emails I received up to today has nothing about furlough.
Not to say furlough isn't imminent, I just dont see any proof to back up AmericanEagleFO's post.
Not to say furlough isn't imminent, I just dont see any proof to back up AmericanEagleFO's post.
03-26-2009, 04:40 PM
#40
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Posts: 443
Thats a great answer for the school house. There is school house logic and line logic. There certainly are things that can be overlooked. This sounds bad, but in reality, its the way it is. The system is not perfect but sometimes it is our job to complete the mission. Obviously this is a controversial statement, but its just how it works.
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