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Old 05-06-2009 | 10:11 PM
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Ok since im going to be cutting my teeth on starting that degree during this slowdown, does anyone know what a fair amount of credit given for flight ratings should be towards a BS in aviation? And no Im not referring to the BS we put up with on the line...
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Old 05-07-2009 | 04:11 AM
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Ok since im going to be cutting my teeth on starting that degree during this slowdown, does anyone know what a fair amount of credit given for flight ratings should be towards a BS in aviation? And no Im not referring to the BS we put up with on the line...

Congrats on passing your first test............recognizing how important education is and making a firm commitment to it.

Don't quote me, I believe the max allowed is approx 36 of 120 required.

I think there is a difference in credit allowed for campus and internet studies.

I'm assuming you'll be doing it online. It's amazing how much you can do while your on trips and in hotels.

Once you start, you'll be glad you did!


Good luck to you!


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Old 05-07-2009 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
Congrats on passing your first test............recognizing how important education is and making a firm commitment to it.

Don't quote me, I believe the max allowed is approx 36 of 120 required.

I think there is a difference in credit allowed for campus and internet studies.

I'm assuming you'll be doing it online. It's amazing how much you can do while your on trips and in hotels.
Good luck to you!


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Actually I havnt decided, I live within 20 min of Daytona, and Ive heard ERAU has a joint internet and class in distance learning centers option, and I have checked into UVSC and they have an internet one. I would kind of like the option of doing both, self study and some class work, but unless the prog at ERAU is less, (since you dont need the ratings, arguably the most expensive part of their program), and I am a resident of the state of florida, I will probably go full online, anyone have any insight
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Old 05-07-2009 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
The most demanding theory exam in flight training (at least in the US) would be the FAA ATP Written. It's a very easy exam. I'm sure it happens but, I've never heard of anyone actually having trouble with it! I saw many people drop out of training but certainly not because they had trouble with the written exams!
On the other hand, I’ve seen many people fail exams in University. Perhaps that's because they are much tougher!
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As we all know those who go as far as their commercial and/or ATP are people that have wanted to fly for a living for a very long time. More likely than not they've prepared themselves for those events for a very long time. Those that are just going to college are doing so because they feel they have to. It's not for some need or quest for knowledge. The drive and desire to not just achieve, but be the best that they can just isn't there. It's comparing apples and oranges.

Yes, I have a degree and you put too much emphisis on college. It's something that is designed for the masses to get through. It's really nothing more than post highschool. If you think it makes you a better pilot, I wouldn't want to fly with you. I showed this to my father, retired from the majors, +25,000 hours. He just shakes his head. The worst pilots he says he flew with were the ones that had their heads wrapped around books.

Neither of us deny that college is a negative thing, but some of you have this idea that it is what makes or breaks you. I'll say it one more time, it's post highschool.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tink
As we all know those who go as far as their commercial and/or ATP are people that have wanted to fly for a living for a very long time. More likely than not they've prepared themselves for those events for a very long time. Those that are just going to college are doing so because they feel they have to. It's not for some need or quest for knowledge. The drive and desire to not just achieve, but be the best that they can just isn't there. It's comparing apples and oranges.

Yes, I have a degree and you put too much emphisis on college. It's something that is designed for the masses to get through. It's really nothing more than post highschool. If you think it makes you a better pilot, I wouldn't want to fly with you. I showed this to my father, retired from the majors, +25,000 hours. He just shakes his head. The worst pilots he says he flew with were the ones that had their heads wrapped around books.

Neither of us deny that college is a negative thing, but some of you have this idea that it is what makes or breaks you. I'll say it one more time, it's post highschool.
Tell that to any employer on an interview and they'll laugh you out of the room. I hire peope and would laugh out loud at that statement.

If your experience was that lacking of educational growth, I think I would consider asking for a refund.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tink
Yes, I have a degree and you put too much emphisis on college. I showed this to my father, retired from the majors, +25,000 hours. He just shakes his head. The worst pilots he says he flew with were the ones that had their heads wrapped around books.
Really? Why didn't your father talk you out of going to college years ago?
Why didn't you elect avoid it yourself?

Not sure how many pilots your father flew with that had no degree.
The vast majority of pilots I've flown with over several years have degrees.

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I'll say it one more time, it's post highschool.
As in learning to run is post learning to walk?

I'm not sure if you're aware that the US highschool diploma is a joke compared with those in many other countries around the world. It's barely worth the paper its written on.

It's common knowledge that a HSD typically won't get you a rewarding career.

College is a must in the US if you want a decent career!

Sorry if you think I put too much emphasis on education. Any job I've ever been interested in typically goes to those with lots of experience and college education.


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Old 05-07-2009 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tink
As we all know those who go as far as their commercial and/or ATP are people that have wanquest for knowledge. The drive and desire to not just achieve, but be the best that they can just isn't there. It's comparing apples and oranges..
When I started my engineering degree the head of the department said the following "look to the left of you, look to the right, both of these people will not complete this degree." Meaning, only 33% who start that degree complete it. It's tough, and the upper division classes are weeders, culling the weak, and ultimately giving more prestige and value to the degree and those that complete it. Same is true with an ATP, I believe, it takes a lot to make it that far, and to pass all of the test. Also I would agree, that anyone who has made it to the point of taking the ATP, has already decided to pass and applies themselves fully to it.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211

Having studied mixology, I think you have delusions of grandeur.

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Actually I think your advanced study of mixology is likely to get you further in this economy than any degree or rating. It also probably will get you more chicks too!

Sorry, but ya' gotta laugh at yourself ever now and again.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bryris
Will this thread ever die?
just don't read it....its that easy.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
Dude! You seriously have a chip on your shoulder and an obvious inferiority complex. Trust me when I say that nobody cares whether you attended, attend, or plan not to attend college. I think most of us are posting about the positive aspects of attending college. I have not heard anyone yet imply that those who do not attend college have chosen to waste their life and will accomplish nothing. You, on the other hand, do not miss a single opportunity to label college as a complete waste of time. I wonder if you see how completely irrational your being. Regardless, I have serious doubt now whether you really earned your associates degree. I can't imagine anyone who, after completing a degree program, would so vigorously deny its merit. Now that I think about it, your right. You absolutely wasted your time and money.
Did they teach you to think that way?
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