ASA Performance+ Payout
05-09-2009 | 12:28 PM
#31
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From: ASA FO
It seems like some are bristling when posed questions about bonus payments versus recalling furloughed pilots. I do not quite understand why there seems to be resistance to discussing something like this.
Which option would raise your morale the most;
1. A $150.00 bonus check?
2. Using those funds to recall as many furloughed pilots as possible?
The Dash Whisperer
Which option would raise your morale the most;
1. A $150.00 bonus check?
2. Using those funds to recall as many furloughed pilots as possible?
The Dash Whisperer
trust me, i would trade in my $68 and deal with 75 hours of credit every month for the foreseeable future to have the 80 pilots back.
05-09-2009 | 01:58 PM
#32
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From: CRJ FO
so dash in your theory ,say it was a $200 performance check. Each ASA pilot during the last qtr, which they earned from set goals by Skywest inc, if they had at least 1 year senority by the end of the qtr. That would be $326,000 from the 1,630 pilots... and say you figure 2nd year pay that would bring back 11 pilots back... ok so only to possibly be furloughed again in the fall. Yea its only a "reward" check that amounts to just the per diem of a 4 day trip but it has the potential for more if the ramp, pilots, fa, dispatch, gate agents, etc working together to make the company more attractive in performance to the BIG D or whoever... Can you say the same for performance at MESA??
If its just a little carrot to get the group to working more as a team for a goal so be it... The big picture is that the regionals must make the "BOSS" happy or they will do what they can to drop us... (DELTA vs MESA ring a bell?) All of us would love to have every furlough pilot for our respected airlines back on the line... but if that airline cant justify all the costs of retraining and a pilots salary then what is that airline suppose to do? If you question what your particular airline website says about whatever, look at the financials, do your OWN research, send the CEO or whoever about ideas to save costs that would bring those pilots back on line yet still make the company money... ITS ALL ABOUT PROFIT vs COSTS, sadly us pilots are a cost that can at times be easly cut. And us pilots sometime just look at the world with blinders when our airline furloughs and just run around like sheep. If someone would come up with an idea to save money, keep jobs, and in many ways to make more money for the company, I know the higher ups would listen...
But thats just my opinion
If its just a little carrot to get the group to working more as a team for a goal so be it... The big picture is that the regionals must make the "BOSS" happy or they will do what they can to drop us... (DELTA vs MESA ring a bell?) All of us would love to have every furlough pilot for our respected airlines back on the line... but if that airline cant justify all the costs of retraining and a pilots salary then what is that airline suppose to do? If you question what your particular airline website says about whatever, look at the financials, do your OWN research, send the CEO or whoever about ideas to save costs that would bring those pilots back on line yet still make the company money... ITS ALL ABOUT PROFIT vs COSTS, sadly us pilots are a cost that can at times be easly cut. And us pilots sometime just look at the world with blinders when our airline furloughs and just run around like sheep. If someone would come up with an idea to save money, keep jobs, and in many ways to make more money for the company, I know the higher ups would listen...
But thats just my opinion
05-10-2009 | 02:53 AM
#33
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From: DHC-8 CA Furloughed
Yea its only a "reward" check that amounts to just the per diem of a 4 day trip but it has the potential for more if the ramp, pilots, fa, dispatch, gate agents, etc working together to make the company more attractive in performance to the BIG D or whoever... Can you say the same for performance at MESA??
Mesa's stats seem to match the other regionals consistently. On the UAX side, ground services are provided by another airline.
The big picture is that the regionals must make the "BOSS" happy or they will do what they can to drop us... (DELTA vs MESA ring a bell?)
DAL did not attempt to drop us for performance. They tried to use that to justify their actions. There use of the exact same wording in the notification to drop another regional carrier made the smoke screen obvious.
ITS ALL ABOUT PROFIT vs COSTS, sadly us pilots are a cost that can at times be easly cut. And us pilots sometime just look at the world with blinders when our airline furloughs and just run around like sheep. If someone would come up with an idea to save money, keep jobs, and in many ways to make more money for the company, I know the higher ups would listen...
Mesa's stats seem to match the other regionals consistently. On the UAX side, ground services are provided by another airline.
The big picture is that the regionals must make the "BOSS" happy or they will do what they can to drop us... (DELTA vs MESA ring a bell?)
DAL did not attempt to drop us for performance. They tried to use that to justify their actions. There use of the exact same wording in the notification to drop another regional carrier made the smoke screen obvious.
ITS ALL ABOUT PROFIT vs COSTS, sadly us pilots are a cost that can at times be easly cut. And us pilots sometime just look at the world with blinders when our airline furloughs and just run around like sheep. If someone would come up with an idea to save money, keep jobs, and in many ways to make more money for the company, I know the higher ups would listen...
Cost saving idea; Drop the Skywest inflight magazine. There is not one customer out there that chooses SKW because of its magazine. If ASA has a twin publication, drop it as well. Use the mainline magazine and apply the savings to recalling pilots.
BHopper, my friend, punctuate please! Your post reads like an eye chart.
05-10-2009 | 05:02 AM
#34
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From: Captain, CRJ-200, ASA
I would prefer to see money used to recall furloughed employees instead of used as bonuses. Has any SKW/ASA manager received a bonus while pilots are on furlough?
Cost saving idea; Drop the Skywest inflight magazine. There is not one customer out there that chooses SKW because of its magazine. If ASA has a twin publication, drop it as well. Use the mainline magazine and apply the savings to recalling pilots.
BHopper, my friend, punctuate please! Your post reads like an eye chart.
Cost saving idea; Drop the Skywest inflight magazine. There is not one customer out there that chooses SKW because of its magazine. If ASA has a twin publication, drop it as well. Use the mainline magazine and apply the savings to recalling pilots.
BHopper, my friend, punctuate please! Your post reads like an eye chart.
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