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05-24-2009 | 04:31 PM

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Ratherbeoffwork

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I find it curious that so many of you will come on this website and bash an RAH pilot. I'm fly for RAH. Read my posts. I don't want the 190s. I'm asking all of you to give me a defense to stop this from happening. But you can't. You avoid my question! My asking for assistance in this delima we are in. Instead, you call me a scab and say how much better you are and that your management would never do this! Well, when they have the opportunity, they will. What will you do?

05-24-2009 | 05:26 PM

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And after a major screwing given to skyway pilot's by the midwest pilot's group, how can you be so indignant about this? Back then, what were you trying to do?

*** are you talking about? Please give ANY specific example. Midwest hired half of its pilots from Skyway (tons more than Delta, AA, US Air, or Continental did with it's wholly owneds). We then offered to management to place ALL Skyway pilots on our seniority list.

So where is the "screwing"?

05-24-2009 | 05:31 PM

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Instead, you call me a scab and say how much better you are and that your management would never do this! Well, when they have the opportunity, they will. What will you do?

Hey Repugnant. When has ANY midwest pilot said our management wouldn't do this? Quite the contrary, we know they are enemy #1, you are simply their enablers.

Hoeks-a-bucks' ego has ruined our airline, pure and simple. Now his ego is destroying our, meaning ALL pilots, careers. That is who you are flying your 190's for.

05-24-2009 | 05:51 PM

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Fly Gal

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2 airplanes doesnt make any sense from a planning point of view. You will see more on the way.

05-24-2009 | 08:23 PM

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But it's not about the money, but the love of flying, right guys?

05-25-2009 | 04:16 AM

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Fly Gal

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But it's not about the money, but the love of flying, right guys?

That's what the Citabria is for!

05-25-2009 | 04:58 AM

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Jake Wheeler

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Originally Posted by Ratherbeoffwork

They won't give you an answer for two reasons. One, there isn't one. Sure, you can quit, but someone else will be hired and someone else will fly it. Aircraft purchases are a management decision just as is the decision to outsource, wholly-own or withdraw from the market. Second, they are part of the problem. It is foolish to blame someone else for their own failure to negotiate an effective scope clause or when they give up scope restrictions for other contract concessions.

The problem isn't you or RAH, Ratherbeoffwork. The problem is the Deregulation Act of 1978. There is no fix for it.

05-25-2009 | 05:02 AM

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Jake Wheeler

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As far as the 717 being "seat cost" heavy. It is a MANAGEMENT decision to fly them at 99 seats and not the 120 it was designed to do.

100% correct just as it was a MANAGEMENT decision to park them and outsource to RAH to save their own jobs from BK court and liquidation.

Is the rumor about Midwest not lasting the summer or the next fuel price bump true? Liquidate Midwest. That'll fix the RAH lowlifes, won't it?

05-25-2009 | 09:17 AM

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RAHPilot5

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doesnt matter Jake what u say to 320. He will still be our pal

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05-25-2009 | 11:13 AM

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320ToBearz

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Learn the history and facts please. Midwest did NOT park the 717's. Stupid Hoeks-a-bucks, following his henchmen Seabury's advice, tried to low ball Boeing for even cheaper lease rates and Boeing simply said "OK, we'll take out airplanes back then." RAH was the B plan.

I have no clue to your second question as Midwest is a private company and thus numbers can be EASILY manipulated on the FAA's outmoded financial disclosure system. The small company cannot easily sustain the loses that it publicly disclosed though. And yes, I would rather see the company fail, then Republic succeed in flying the 190's. If they buy us and shut us out of our jobs, then I am glad I am out of the industry and should tell you where you truly are in their eyes.