The fleet is grounded.

 

Boiler,

Do you honestly believe that the "integrated" RAH will earn fair and comparable wages for the MEH flying? It will not happen. Please prove me wrong, RAH Pilots...

 

Oh, please, the queston is wether or not Fronteir or Midwest will be a place thats worth having around anyway............."gainful employment", I am sure thats what F9, and Midwest gusy are thinking right now. I don't LOATHE anyone for "TAKING CAL'S FLYING"...............

 

Yep...I'm glad they'll be gainfully employed for half their previous pay

What about the MEH furloughs? Will they be coming back into the integration? What does this do to the bottom of RAH's current list...

 

There's no choice. Any new aircraft introduced to RAH will have to have new wages negotiated for. If wages can't be negotiated then the aircraft are not flown. There's no reason that the RAH pilot group would vote for ANY pay concessions. We are a money making machine. At worst the aircraft would be operated at their current established rates.

 

Which, if considering the E-190/beyond, are uncceptable.

 

Wait until you have to renew your contracts with mainline. Enjoy it while you can, it will come to an end. I highly doubt your mainline partners wanting to provide $$$ to a company that they compete with or, in line with Xjet, support.

 

Yes, I do. I also think they'll get fair wages for Frontier, also.

RAH pilots know they are underpaid (FOs especially). They know their contract is weak in many areas. They also know their growth has pretty much stopped, and they'll likely start contracting even after this M&A activity. Additionally, RAH pilots have known many folks in the airline business don't like them (mostly regional pilots), but with the info from the last two days they've now they've got a gazillion-watt spotlight shining on them, with everybody in the industry watching.

Many pilots (especially the FOs!) at RAH know the growth and fast upgrades are over. They know Bedford wants out of the 50 seat business; they've known it for some time. They also know with each 70+ seat airplane flown by them is one fewer airplane providing jobs at a major airline.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are some tools over there that are jumping for joy and salivating about flying an Airbus, and probably an idiot or two there screaming "staple" like a drunken idiot.

But this time, unlike 2003, RAH pilots have all the leverage in the world - the ability to destroy shareholder value in RAH, the one thing Bedford seems to worship as much as God. And they'll have a bunch of ****ed-off Midwest and Frontier pilots, if willing, to help them exercise that leverage for all its worth.

Yes, I have faith that RAH pilots will get a fair wage for the E190 airframe, and that there won't be pilots flying Airbusses around lower than the current F9 rates. Will the E190 wage match current book MEH or Jetblue? I don't know...but there is no reason whatsoever to not get rates in line with their narrowbody peers for the larger airframes (and a corresponding raise down the line).

For better or worse, many current RAH pilots will end their airline careers at RAH pilots...and I think more know that than are willing to admit it. As such, they've no reason whatsoever to accept anything less than a fair CBA.

 

Boiler, how would you like it if the boss said he was selling the CJ2 to another outfit who was going to provide gainful employment by staffing the plane with college interns flying for minimum wage. You still had a job, but it will be brought down to their level. Should you be thankful you are still "gainfully employed", that you will be able to provide guidance to help the interns spend years trying to get back to where you were before only to have the normal cost of living leave you in the dust? If you think jobs are protected here, they are I guess in theory, but what outside of a Captain and FO position is protected?

I am disgusted by the mainline MECs who through their arrogance and shortsightedness allowed these deals to be codified and mainline money spent to allow these deals to occur. This is like a cancer that is spreading from the limbs to the organs now. It will be only to short before this "opportunity" comes knocking at a mainline door near you. UAL, LCC, DAL, AMR, CAL, the question is who is next?????

 

As a Frontier pilot I am curious what Republic pilots’ would consider a fair integration. I realize this is a loaded question, but I would love to here what others consider fair. As an Airbus Captain I would like to retain my seat, my aircraft, my base, and my pay. Is that acceptable to those of you at Republic?