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07-27-2009 | 08:04 AM
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DoH isn't going to happen. Its not a part of ALPA merger/frag policy OR Allegheny/Mohawk. Since RAH isn't ALPA, Allegheny/Mohawk is the ruling policy in this case.
And precedent says that since furloughees don't bring a job to the SLI, they get added to the bottom of the list.
That's exactly why all the YX guys will get furloughed before the SLI is accomplished. They'll then get stapled BELOW the RAH furloughees. And the F9 furloughees will get stapled beneath the YX guys.
Don't be surprised if RAH starts "outsourcing" F9 flying to RAH E-190s and starts furloughing more F9 guys.
And precedent says that since furloughees don't bring a job to the SLI, they get added to the bottom of the list.
That's exactly why all the YX guys will get furloughed before the SLI is accomplished. They'll then get stapled BELOW the RAH furloughees. And the F9 furloughees will get stapled beneath the YX guys.
Don't be surprised if RAH starts "outsourcing" F9 flying to RAH E-190s and starts furloughing more F9 guys.
07-27-2009 | 08:10 AM
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What we all NEED is a group of pilots to work together ( we are all possibly going to face a similar situation in our careers) and work this out so managment realizes that creating this kind of situation isnt going to whipsaw pilots further down, but you have proved once again that all you are concerned with is ME. The same thing you blast RAH for ...Nice
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07-27-2009 | 09:05 AM
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I bet even if by some quirk of fate you win DOH, it will be not your 100/hr, you going to be happy with that, or are you going to try to displace all the RAH pilots who did nothing wrong to you and then not want the job anyway....does this attitude of yours somehow make you feel like your above it all....A lot of people watching this thing from the outside are losing any sense of sympathy towards the Midwest group, just because of this I OWN IT ALL, attitude, and could care less about a junior RAH pilot....
There are plenty of Midwest pilots way senior to anyone at Republic who got the shaft so Republic crews could have jobs. I don't feel for the Republic crews one bit. That's their problem.
What we all NEED is a group of pilots to work together ( we are all possibly going to face a similar situation in our careers) and work this out so managment realizes that creating this kind of situation isnt going to whipsaw pilots further down, but you have proved once again that all you are concerned with is ME. The same thing you blast RAH for ...Nice
There are plenty of Midwest pilots way senior to anyone at Republic who got the shaft so Republic crews could have jobs. I don't feel for the Republic crews one bit. That's their problem.
What we all NEED is a group of pilots to work together ( we are all possibly going to face a similar situation in our careers) and work this out so managment realizes that creating this kind of situation isnt going to whipsaw pilots further down, but you have proved once again that all you are concerned with is ME. The same thing you blast RAH for ...Nice
07-27-2009 | 09:17 AM
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Your right Edwin, I finally see it your way. I will gladly give you and yours your seats back I am so sorry for participating in this industry. I should have waited my turn. While you are accepting my sincerest apologies please allow me to bow before you. Am I worthy to wax your car....sir??
If the fate was reversed you would gladly push me aside. You are begging and pleading for your own job while pushing for someone else to give up theirs for you. You, sir, are as self centered as they come. The good for the company as a whole is much more productive than the good of Sir Edwin.....
If the fate was reversed you would gladly push me aside. You are begging and pleading for your own job while pushing for someone else to give up theirs for you. You, sir, are as self centered as they come. The good for the company as a whole is much more productive than the good of Sir Edwin.....
07-27-2009 | 09:46 AM
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I did not come and replace you. I did not fly for peanuts being paid less than a secretary at a Tatoo parlor to fly an airplane part 121. I did not have my company dress up in another carriers colors and then go out and put their people on the street. It's to bad you can't see the faces of the people who lost their jobs to you people. But if you are ever in MKE, you can go into Flt Ops and see the pictures on the wall. They are all there. Go look at them and then tell yourself you deserve to have their jobs.
Edwin here is an avatar for you to ad to your profile
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07-27-2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Edwin
It's to bad you can't see the faces of the people who lost their jobs to you people.
07-27-2009 | 09:55 AM
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I am not sure that "flying an MD 80 since we ALL were in diapers" has prepared THE GEAT SIR EDWIN to fly the 190. It appears by his lack of understanding and trouble grasping simple concepts that there may be some issues understanding the new fangeled computer system airliners of today.
07-27-2009 | 10:00 AM
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Not quite true. LCC East wanted whatever method that would net them DOH. When the arbitration didn't give them what they wanted, they threatened ALPA. When that wasn't doing the job, they formed their own union believing they could just cram DOH down the America West pilots' throats. I guess they weren't anticipating the fierce resistance or the subsequent a$$ kicking they got in federal court. So, there was a lot more scheming going on over at the East than just a haphazard "surprise! Arbitration didn't quite work....now what?" They had it planned all along, but they never thought any of it all the way through. Now the reality is that JBLU E190 captains with 10 years make more than an A320 captain with 30 years.
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