My comment was clearly sarcastic aimed at his caustic response to mine. Lighten up francis. Do you think the integration will be handled via the online opinions of airlinepilotcentral.com?

 

Well then I apoligize, I didnt catch the sarcasm, and you have to admit that some of the guys representing themselves as Midwest pilots have been very poorly representing their case by beating up the RAH group, of which had nothing to do with managment once again screwing a group of Pilots..I've said it before I think you guys need some luck after all this crap, and I think this luck will come by enlisting your future co-workers into this battle as brothers not enemys. But maybe its a bit nieve to think that a happy middle can be reached between the pilot groups. I really want to be wrong on that..

 

$37 for an airplane (similar seating capacity since RAH's contract is defined by that) we were paid $100 to fly for the same seat, the pilot group most certainly should be beaten up until it is rectified.

Now F9 is all cued up to receive the Bedford christian treatment. Should they just stand by and give unto Caesar what is his?

 

Once again one word Fixation....I've used it before...

It is obvious those of us hoping you guys will get over yourselves and be a part of the solution instead of the problem, are going to be sorely disappointed...and Im afraid you too may face some disapointment when this is over.

I have no qualms talking candidly with guys who want to have a frank discussion of all opinions, but I will stop the conversation when I realize I'm talking to a brick wall.....

 

A cheap company pays it's employees cheap. This Bedford guy is nothing but a hawk. A junk bond salesman. He reminds me of Lorenzo and companies like Peoples Express and New York Air. Pay your employees nothing, treat them like dirt because there will always be another class graduating from Embry Riddle more than willing to fly right seat for $37.00/hr. It is pathetic that management abuses people who are trying to make a career. But it also re-enforeces my point. You bought me, I didn't buy you. You bought my seniority and contract. IF you don't honor that, I will be asking for it to be taken to court. You won't win. So after reading the vile garbage the last couple of pages, I am urging all Midwest pilots who read this to call your MEC and demand an arbitration. I for one am fed up with this company called Republic.

 

You can't be so naive as to really believe that. You chose the company just as much, if not more, as the company chose you. Don't forget - there is no such thing as indentured servitude or slavery in this country...you are always free to take your services elsewhere.

In a perfect world filled with rainbows and lollipop dreams, maybe...but have you been paying attention to this whole MEH saga the last 12-18 months, let alone airline labor the past decade?

 

Our scope language is very clear. Something you RAH people don't want to recognize. Your CEO does though. Guess we'll find out very shortly which direction he chooses. As for taking it somewhere else, where exactly do you think there is to go? I am sure I was flying MD-80's when you were still wearing a diaper, so it doesn't really bother me what they do with seniority intergration. There are less than ten pilots at all of RAH who have more time. What I care about is those 16 and 17 year guys who are in danger of being placed at the bottom because one of your 2 or 3 year guys might lose their job. If jobs are being taken in MKE by pilots junior to YX pilots, than I am going to demand of my leadership for DOH. Again, I urge all YX pilots to read carefully what pilots years and years junior to you are posting. This nees to go to arbitration and we need to file this week.

 

I don't work for RAH.

I'm just really tired of the ridiculous, emotional, internet tough guy hyperbole being thrown around on the interwebs toward Republic Airways pilots who never got a vote toward what business models Brian Bedford and Wayne Heller have decided to pursue.

You can hope for DOH all you want, but don't hold your breath because it ain't going to happen; the last pilot group that stomped its feet and demanded DOH because pilots hired at a date later than them were going to "steal their jobs" has gotten legally smacked down by a handful of local and federal judges.

Midwest has an awesome product, there is no doubt about that. And yes, you MEH pilots are getting screwed in this whole deal, there is no doubt about that either. BUT - your business model hasn't been sustainable for some time know and it was Hoeksema, not RAH pilots or even RAH management, who sent you down this path. In hindsight, maybe "saving the cookie" wasn't the best path to pursue...

I honestly, truly wish you folks all the best...but as an outsider looking in I can't help but think a little less anger and a little more teamwork between your pilot group and the RAH pilot group would pay dividends for both parties involved.

 

THAN WHY DO YOU CARE?

 

I thought I already explained that:

Despite working in business aviation now I consider myself to be quite the interested party as to the goings-on in the 121 world. I have lots of friends at RAH, and former colleagues from ARW (where I was an ALPA committee chair) who were some of the first furloughs from MEH.

I'm tired of seeing airline pilots **** away opportunities to achieve gains despite adversity because of little more than hubris and a sense of entitlement; the entire piloting profession has suffered because of it. I'm tired of seeing good jobs sold in exchange for _________, resulting in lower-paying jobs. Most importantly, I'm baffled as to why some airline pilots can objectively see why what is happening is happening, yet can't seem to trouble themselves to 1. educate others or 2. work proactively to secure a better fate...if only out of a sense of self-preservation for themselves and their colleagues.

So that's why I care; I'd probably be a little bit better off if I didn't...but apathy is the whole reason the profession has gotten itself into this mess in the first place now isn't it?