wmuflyboy

im confused. is the pilot gonna need just the 1500 hours and then the airline will train them for the ATP or is the pilot gonna need all of the requirements in the regs for the ATP and then the airline will train them for the ATP or does the pilot need the ATP multi to get at least an interview with an airline??

TurboDog

Would be interesting if they put in a mandate stating that the only way you could fly for a US part 121 carrier was to obtain your training from a 2 or 4 year Associates or Bachelors degree or come through the military. Might sound kind of out there, but really it's not. To fly a Jet in the military you MUST have a 4 year degree. Why should it be any different for part 121?

papacharlie

because in the military your school and flying hours are getting paid by tax payers on the civil world....different world my friend....I had to go on debt to get my 4 years degree and flight training.

papacharlie

and I have to get a job out of school to pay back doing whatever (most of the time not flying related jobs)...military they have a job coming out of the academy with a check in hand

NWA320pilot

I would expect that the airlines would require the applicant to posses the certificate for and interview. Just like now you must posses a commercial certificate to be interviewed.

rickair7777

The military does NOT require that you have a four-year degree to fly airplanes. They require that you have the degree to be a commissioned officer. As it turns out the services which fly jets use commissioned officers but that is not a legal requirement. There are many army pilots who do not have degrees.

I agree that airline pilots should have degrees, but I'm not sure that it should be legislated.

And it is ridiculous to require graduation from an aviation degree program. Many of those do not have particularly high standards at all...if you can pay, you can fly! Even the military does not require that you go to any particular college...but they will dis-enroll you from flight training if you screw up more than once or twice.

meeko031

I didn't know that a 4yr degree could have prevented the crash! How does my 4yr degree in computer science going to help me become a qualified pilot?

bcrosier

"I have to say that a pilot with 1500 hours of flying from XXX to YYY and isn't materially any more valuable to an airline than one who's done it for 500. There's only so much you can learn in a CRJ or Embraer."

You will get from the experience what you put into it. If you choose to be a $#!tty instructor, you aren't going to learn a darn thing while doing it. By your logic, everyone should be ready for upgrade with 500 in type - are you ready to defend 800 hour Part 121 PIC's?

Experience is not only measured in hours, but also years. You learn things flying day in, day out over a sustained period of time that you will draw on for the rest of your career. Not discounting hour, but if you could build 1500 hours in a summer (not possible I realize), do you think you'd be ready for the left seat having never de-iced or operated in icing conditions? I realize that most SE trainers don't deal with the previous two problems, but what about analyzing if you can conduct an IFR training flight in a non-known icing aircraft in the midwest in January? Would you learn anything from that exercise? Would you be developing judgement? Would you be evaluating options and alternatives if you were to go? Do I need to continue?

rickair7777

It will help you, especially when you get into modern turbine powered airplanes...which are all computerized and menu driven.

meeko031

I guess, but if any of the computers fail in flight, we have a checklist for that. Maybe even a memory item down the line. A degree will not save me from a crash