Do you want to maybe change your statement. No holes in your contract, read the bold. As I said, you are flying the 170/190 because you are CHEAPER, nothing less, nothing more. Not because you have a great contract. The company would argue the 170 was originally scheduled for F9 and now to YX. I'm a pilot, not a lawyer, and even I can pick apart your contract. You don't think a seasoned lawyer will find crap like this.

G. Sale/Transfer/Lease of Companies’ Aircraft
The Company or any Subsidiary of the Company, Republic Airways
Holdings, Inc. (the Parent) or any Subsidiaries of Republic Airways
Holdings, Inc. may not sell, lease or transfer an aircraft to another air
carrier or entity for the purpose of evading the terms of this agreement.
The Company, Republic Airways Holdings, Inc. (the Parent) or any
Subsidiaries of Republic Airways Holdings, Inc. may sell, lease or transfer an aircraft to another air carrier or entity when the Company no longer requires such aircraft for its operation.

 

Better to have a lousy contract than none at all. Better to be employed than unemployed.

Why did the Frontier pilots choose RAH over SWA? Because they'd rather have a job than a cute leather jacket and an unemployment check.

We are all commodities, fellas. Get used to it.

 

Do you think I'm lying to you. As I said, you are in the 170/190 because you are CHEAPER. I have been a union member for 13 out of my 20 year aviation career. During that time, it ALWAYS seems that the company will have smarter, better, more expensive , more slimy lawyers than our union does. There are ways around every thing. I'm a pilot , not a lawyer and I can pick stuff like this out. You don't think BB has some type of plan for all of this and to do it on the cheap. Do you think he will open up his pocket book because he likes you. Don't want to be rude, but guys really need to wake up. The best way to judge what I'm saying is, is our profession getting better or worse? You be the judge!

 

I thought Republic was flying the 170/190 for Midwest Connect because some stupid CEO and CFO who shall remain nameless bluffed with a pair when trying to negotiate with Boeing who had a straight flush and called them on it, hence the additional 717s for Click in Mexico.

 

I thought TPG and BB worked together to find the cheapest labor costs for Midwest E170/E190. You can't grow a airline on B717.



Finding the executive talent to lead a turnaround is never easy.
"The hardest part of our job is finding great CEOs," said Coulter (who is not related to former Bank of America Corp. CEO David Coulter).
In addition to operational expertise, Texas Pacific looks for those with strong leadership and interpersonal skills.
"When we visit a company, we watch the CEO interact with people in the hallway. Do people say hello to him?" Coulter said.
Often, Texas Pacific is negotiating with a potential CEO even as it's hammering out details of the acquisition. They have a philosophy of building value as opposed to cutting corners to make a quick buck."

 

I fixed it for you.

 

Once again..I'll explain in simple terms. BB was NEVER planning on selling the birds or leasing them to YX. Why did you leave out the part that these birds MUST be flown by RAH employees? Never mind..your mind is clearly made up, so I'll move on.

 

Please, please continue to try to explain it to me in simple terms because these are the legal terms. Do you guys read any of this stuff or just go by what you make up on your own.

These are the facts and the legal contract, not what I wrote or made up.

Key commercial terms of the agreement include:
1. Under the Airline Service Agreement (“ASA”), Midwest will purchase all capacity at predetermined rates and will directly pay or reimburse Republic for industry standard pass-through costs.

2. The first aircraft will be placed into service on October 1, 2008 and the last aircraft on November 15, 2008.

3. The agreement has a term of ten years. However, at Midwest’s option, and at any time prior to June 1, 2010, Midwest can elect to convert the ASA into a long term aircraft lease. The 12 E170’s would be leased from Republic for the remaining duration of the ASA and operated on the Midwest Airlines operating certificate.

4. All fuel will be purchased directly by Midwest and will not be charged back to Republic.

5. Republic made a one year term loan to Midwest in the amount of $15.0 million, with an additional loan commitment of $10.0 million, based on the achievement of certain milestones.
6. The loan(s) is collateralized by all of Midwest’s unencumbered assets and generally be senior to other lender’s security position.

As part of the financing agreement, Republic has entered into an airline services agreement with Midwest to operate 12 Embraer 170 jets under the Midwest Connect brand. Republic will operate the 76-seat Embraer 170s until Midwest can transition the fleet under its own FAA operating certificate. The new Embraer 170 service will be introduced into Midwest Connect’s schedule throughout the fall, beginning October 1.

The airline said it plans to continue negotiating with the unions representing its pilots and flight attendants on concessions necessary to align its labor costs to the marketplace, in order to meet one of the final goals of its restructuring plan. It also said that the airline services agreement with Republic would result in additional furloughs for Midwest pilots, flight attendants and maintenance staff until Midwest can operate the Embraer 170 fleet on its own FAA operating certificate. The airline said it expected this process, which includes training for its flight crews and maintenance staff, would take eight months to a year.

 

Some of you guys who posted here sure have changed your tune over the last year. Just came up with this link and read some old post. From disgust of what was happening to now, this was our flying all along.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-airlines.html

 

There is still a lot of disgust. However, many are just flat out tired of coming on these public forums and seeing people like you calling RAH pilots "virtual scabs" or whatever made up term you guys have used. The more you guys attack the RAH pilots, the less sympathy you're going to get. The purchase of midwest is not something the pilots can change. The ONLY thing we can do from here is move forward. Our union has said the integtration of ALL airlines at the same time is in our best interest, and their logic makes sense. They are looking out for our pilot group, period. Just as yours is looking out for you.

Its kind of ironic how you guys are blasting away at us, stealing bags, etc. Then you're up in arms how we're not sympathetic enough and giving in to your every request.