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Old 12-05-2009 | 05:20 AM
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I think they serve the public well. Somebody needs to stand up to the glossy ads the the GA magazines. It kind of a Jane Curtin vs. Dan Akroid thing.

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Old 12-05-2009 | 05:48 AM
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Well,well,well...quite an undercurrent of resentment here.Degree vs. no degree ? Since it IS and HAS been a defacto requirement for any major,what does it matter ? I'll tell you: The regional captains with no degree won't be moving to a major.Why is this a problem ? Because you're holding up the career progression of the entitlement generation ! "I"M ENTITLED to my 1,000 turbine PIC ! My professors at Riddle told me so ! That's MY seat,you lifer scum !" You know,the lifers get together and talk.They talk about such and such F/O,you know.They realize that F/O's are hoping to move them out of the way via various means.One called the company at EXACTLY show time and said his captain was late.Thing was,he wasn't late-he was in the crew room where he's supposed to be.So the captain had him pulled off the trip and he got to explain to the lifer chief pilot why he didn't know the GOM.Some of these lifers are check airmen.It would be bad if you got an unsat on your next PC-might be a bad thing on your app to Southwest.As for a degree inferring intellect-please ! Have any of you ever seen what a longshoreman makes ? You'd be crying in your beer.Now argue amongst yourselves,but be aware,the lifers are onto you.
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Old 12-05-2009 | 06:25 AM
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Well,well,well...quite an undercurrent of resentment here.Degree vs. no degree ? Since it IS and HAS been a defacto requirement for any major,what does it matter ? I'll tell you: The regional captains with no degree won't be moving to a major.Why is this a problem ? Because you're holding up the career progression of the entitlement generation ! "I"M ENTITLED to my 1,000 turbine PIC ! My professors at Riddle told me so ! That's MY seat,you lifer scum !" You know,the lifers get together and talk.They talk about such and such F/O,you know.They realize that F/O's are hoping to move them out of the way via various means.One called the company at EXACTLY show time and said his captain was late.Thing was,he wasn't late-he was in the crew room where he's supposed to be.So the captain had him pulled off the trip and he got to explain to the lifer chief pilot why he didn't know the GOM.Some of these lifers are check airmen.It would be bad if you got an unsat on your next PC-might be a bad thing on your app to Southwest.As for a degree inferring intellect-please ! Have any of you ever seen what a longshoreman makes ? You'd be crying in your beer.Now argue amongst yourselves,but be aware,the lifers are onto you.
Is there a point somewhere in all of this rambling?
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Old 12-05-2009 | 06:38 AM
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Is there a point somewhere in all of this rambling?
WOW, you just summed up Airline Pilot Central High in 10 words or less....
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Old 12-05-2009 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I agree and have lived by those standards.

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I am beginning to wonder if you are delusional..... so, where are you trying to go with all this? Are you looking for people who share your sentiment?

I actually feel a bit sorry for you... okay, not anymore. Why don't you focus all this energy and time you waste on here into something productive with your life?
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Old 12-05-2009 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckyt1
Don't pay for a job, don't pay for training, do not accept substandard wages.
Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I agree and have lived by those standards.

Skyhigh

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you go fly with Skybus?
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Old 12-05-2009 | 12:39 PM
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Have to agree with Juice, Tink (my man...congrats, by the way), and flyJSH...I've noticed skyhigh is ALWAYS tappin' his toes to the wrong beat. C'mon...if you went from the regionals to 757 LLC f/o, there are jobs to be had...check out climbto350 or other similar sites.

I also went to college/military in the late '80's and NO you did NOT walk on with the majors after a few hundred hours and a degree in hand. That didn't happen, unless you made a typo and meant the late '60's. (Even then, you had guys leaving tours from Southeast Asia in Phantoms and going to the front of the line)

Tink...right on the money...when the shiite-hits-the-fan in the cockpit, I'll take the "uneducated" freight-dog sitting next to me over the "educated" Riddle-diddle anyday of the week and twice on Sundays. By the way...the military does not necessarily require a degree to fly-see USNR NavCad, USA Warrant Officer, etc.

No I don't have a 4 year degree, (left college early as a NavCad), and to those who've posted that college was far more difficult than flying...I have no idea where you're flying, but college is a joke compared to airline training...(and I majored in Finance Business admin)
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Old 12-05-2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NoStep
By the way...the military does not necessarily require a degree to fly-see USNR NavCad, USA Warrant Officer, etc.

No I don't have a 4 year degree, (left college early as a NavCad), and to those who've posted that college was far more difficult than flying...I have no idea where you're flying, but college is a joke compared to airline training...(and I majored in Finance Business admin)
As you know - the NavCad program comes and goes. You only had a certain amount of time to get your degree after commissioning correct?

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Old 12-05-2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NoStep
Have to agree with Juice, Tink (my man...congrats, by the way), and flyJSH...

..when the shiite-hits-the-fan in the cockpit, I'll take the "uneducated" freight-dog sitting next to me over the "educated" Riddle-diddle anyday of the week and twice on Sundays.


..I have no idea where you're flying, but college is a joke compared to airline training...(and I majored in Finance Business admin)
Clearly you are a very wise fellow

I would add, I'll take anybody who realizes he doesn't know everything.

About your university experience.... Finance and Business Administration has got to be easy..... that is where Airline Managers come from

(by the way, while it is nice you saved the best for last, I really deserved top billing... keep that in mind for next time)
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Old 12-05-2009 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Clearly you are a very wise fellow



(by the way, while it is nice you saved the best for last, I really deserved top billing... keep that in mind for next time)
The Juice always gets top billing, never forget that.
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