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Old 12-04-2009 | 12:12 AM
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'Entitled', really- I mean seriously, are you royalty or something?! I think that's the whole problem with this industry... and most people in general. Anyone who thinks they entitled to anything, get a grip and get over yourselves. Keep feeling that way and you will be on your way to a miserable life- which it sounds like you're half way there anyway.

As you were your highness.....
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Old 12-04-2009 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
There are some good ideas in this thread. I wish pilots were required to have a bachelor's degree..... The grammar and spelling of my fellow pilots is atrocious.


Your probably thinking that their all just dum since they cant spell. I'll bet that some of them just loosed there way. I'll also bet that many of the worst speellers are aslo college gradutates.

Just a reflextion of our modern US of A. Oh, almost forget, US is da chit. Nomber 1. Best! Woo Hoo !!!!

Talk 2 u l8tr.
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Old 12-04-2009 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I went to college in the mid to late 80's too; but I wasn't interested in the airlines so I don't know what the industry was like then.
Your post is confusing me though Sky.
Which was it in the late 80's - Were "...times good. Airlines were hiring." or "by the time you graduated things had indeed changed."

Did you go to college in the late 80's when you say times were good and then graduate in the early 90's when they had changed?

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Recently I have been accused of turning threads into my life story. How can I avoid that when people like to try and pick apart the details of my posts instead of addressing the main concept?

As with our current situation by the time I graduated things had changed.

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Old 12-04-2009 | 05:56 AM
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Seriously the industry is what it is. Either accept it or move on. I've thought about it and realized, the airline biz is not going to change. Too many apathetic souls. Your attacked if you criticize their livelihood and your still in it and told to get out. And your attacked if you bail from it for greener pastures as being weak.

And yeah, having a bachelor degree should be a requirement. Its called professional standards. Just like making the ATP a requirement, anything that adds to the level of training or education required will limit the flow of newhires. It would suck for those without it, but that will reduce the number of eligible individuals who can be employed. Rather than depend on age/retirements to create more jobs, simply raising the bar in education will eliminate many. And "real world experience" does not set a standard for entry level requirements. I think a degree is a positive, though I'm sure there will be plenty that disagree.
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Old 12-04-2009 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Recently I have been accused of turning threads into my life story. How can I avoid that when people like to try and pick apart the details of my posts instead of addressing the main concept?

As with our current situation by the time I graduated things had changed.

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The issue is that your threads lack credibility. All are negative in tone and the message is coming from someone who is not longer in the "loop."

I am not saying that people out of professional aviation can not contribute to ideas and opinion about the industry. You have always cited numerous reasons why you left, bottom line is you could not hang with it and you quit.

Those who can't do, teach.
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Old 12-04-2009 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
The issue is that your threads lack credibility. All are negative in tone and the message is coming from someone who is not longer in the "loop."

I am not saying that people out of professional aviation can not contribute to ideas and opinion about the industry. You have always cited numerous reasons why you left, bottom line is you could not hang with it and you quit.

Those who can't do, teach.

To be the most accurate I was laid off I did not quit. If another suitable job would have come along I would still be flying. In addition how is someone who has been in the military or was hired by a cargo outfit over 20 years ago supposed to know more about what it means to be a starving regional pilot today?

My points are just as valid as most who post here. As you so kindly pointed out i am technically a full time flight instructor. My place here is as credible as anyone's.

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Old 12-04-2009 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Recently I have been accused of turning threads into my life story. How can I avoid that when people like to try and pick apart the details of my posts instead of addressing the main concept?

As with our current situation by the time I graduated things had changed.

Skyhigh
I don't know Sky - - - by making credible posts and quit trying to overexaggerate everything?
As for your other post....you can't have it both ways. The airline industry was either good when you graduated or it was not; I doubt it changed over night in the late 80's.
Pick a side.

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Old 12-04-2009 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
To be the most accurate I was laid off I did not quit. If another suitable job would have come along I would still be flying. In addition how is someone who has been in the military or was hired by a cargo outfit over 20 years ago supposed to know more about what it means to be a starving regional pilot today?

My points are just as valid as most who post here. As you so kindly pointed out i am technically a full time flight instructor. My place here is as credible as anyone's.

Skyhigh
Sadly, your posts lack credibility and you should not continue and try and act a "the voice of reason" on this forum. Again, you are the most negative person on this forum and that negativity is one reason you lack credibility.

You were laid off but decided to walk away from the industry, that is quitting. Nothing wrong with going in another direction but lets call it what it is, it is quitting.

I'm done now.
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Old 12-04-2009 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rnav
Seriously the industry is what it is. Either accept it or move on. I've thought about it and realized, the airline biz is not going to change. Too many apathetic souls. Your attacked if you criticize their livelihood and your still in it and told to get out. And your attacked if you bail from it for greener pastures as being weak.

And yeah, having a bachelor degree should be a requirement.
It is "You're"...not "Your".
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Old 12-04-2009 | 07:03 AM
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As someone who 'beat the system" or "beat the odds", I have to question why the push for a degree. Since 90 something percent have degrees, how would requiring a degree help the industry? It would seem to me that the industry has done a fine job of weeding people like me out. I find that the pilots that have the biggest sense of entitlement come from the military and haven't found a job at a major yet.

My thoughts on what has "killed the industry"

1. B scale
2. Scope
3. Airlines using bankruptcy to gut union contracts
4. Whipsawing regionals
5. The "commoditization" of air travel
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