Great point... Its a CRAPPY contract. I am not trying to compare MY CRAPPY regional to YOURS. Just point out the obvious that Mainline carriers should keep their flying and thus it would benefit us all. We know however it is one of those things you do not truley know the colors of until you work for the place.... The CRJ700/200 payscales are actually pretty close to those in the industry right now. But it is also a contract that was put together with rates for 2001 after the events of 9/11/2001. The fact that the rates are blended are a great thing for majority of the pilot group due to the fact if you fly the 200 (which we have the most of) you are getting a higher rate then you would if they were different pay rates.... But is flying a 700 for the rate of a 900 any different?

At the end of the day I would love our 700's to go to Mainline and be flown by them.... But that day probably wont ever happen.... So in the end perhaps a mute point. But I know that we are in contract talks and I for one will push for rates that are better then ASA and vote no on a TA that is anything less..... Much like this pilot group did when the 900's were offered with no pay raise... We said no and then RAH/MESA grew like mad.... But perhaps we should have just said yes to get flying and worry about the rates later huh? That would be smart? Oh wait no, no it wouldnt....

Lastly I believe Mesaba is still going to furlough more and will have more on the street.... I hope that is wrong and never happens but last I checked it appeared the Saabs were on the way out???

 

I figure I'll save IC ALL the trouble and remind anyone at ASA (and others) not wanting to listen to flame bait:

How to ignore a user: click on the users screen name, click on public profile, and add to ignore list.

On a serious note, where will the majority of their 900 routes be transferred to?

 

I'll give you the fact that your chart is close to industry but VERY manipulative. Your FO pay is more like 200 pay so your 700 FOs are getting short stacked. Your CA pay starts off like 700 pay but ends up like 200 pay so your 700 CAs get short stacked.

Did you ever look at MESA's and RAH's pay charts? Their 76 seat A/C's pay is much better, and so RAH/MESA grew. Their is no one to blame but PSA management for turning that down. (lose the sarcasm because I am definitely not blaming that on your pilot group)

AS OF RIGHT NOW ASA has more on furlough then Mesaba. Also you talk so much about other carriers, REMEMBER Mesaba didn't grow as rapidly until Delta started to shrink Comair. You are picking a fight with the wrong Airline.

 

My guess is SKYW will still fly them, just flow through ATL. Or perhaps deadhead crews to ATL, kind of like what ASA does with CVG.

 

how have you been, still down in florida?

 

I'm good, still in FL, going to UCF, should be graduating by the end of the year and then I'll start grad school to get my M.A. OLD and back in college... hahaha who woulda thought. How are things with you?

 

We dont fly 76 seat aircraft.... But at the end of the day we agree... All of our payscales are subpar to that of a Legacy such as Delta.... Which is why I was saying earlier I wish any reduction of SKY flying in and out of ATL might go back to Dad... And thus the whipsawing that Delta has been doing to all the DCI carriers might be reduced...

 

Mature??? Do as you wish and thanks for the tip incase I want to use it on you as well.... However I rather keep all my resources open...

 

It's like dogs chomping at scraps that fall from the table.

"But those are my scraps!" "I was allotted 80% of the scraps!"

Good gosh...

 

Perhaps if those of you who preceded us had minded the store as well as those who preceded you we would not be in this predicament.