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Flyby1206 11-06-2010 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by YoDigity514 (Post 897007)
So I have a question about commuting. How feasible would it be to commute from SLC to DFW if I was sitting reserve? Do many pilots at eagle commute that route? Also, I know this is hard to tell but does anyone know how long a new hire in DFW would sit reserve with all this growth? I am hoping for 6 months? lol

Check passrider.com for a list of commuting options and keep in mind when you fly AA/AE you will pay roughly $12 per flight for coach class when commuting until you hit 5yrs seniority. It is free to ride on other airlines.

Realistically, it would be hard to commute into DFW on the same day if you had a sign-in time before noon. You would probably get stuck commuting in the night before and hanging at a crashpad if you had reserve. Last flight out of DFW-SLC is 9:15pm, which should be a reasonable time to catch a flight home, if there arent a dozen other AA/AE guys fighting for the last seat ;)

shfo 11-06-2010 09:12 AM

Eagle is down to a 6 year upgrade. Junior CRJ CA in LGA is going to be a 9/04 hire.

bailee atr 11-06-2010 09:28 AM

Is the last bid result out yet!!!!

withthatsaid182 11-06-2010 10:37 AM

6 year upgrade time with the current fleet size, flow thru's, economy and contract.

The upgrade time was 9-10 yrs for awhile there. The only reason we made this jump to 6 yrs was because of the bubble between 01' and 04' without hiring.

We need to consider the future of the 37 seat fleet as well as the 44 seat fleet...and whether there are going to be any new aircraft in the future.

Contract after 2012.

Whether we get sold.

The scope section in the upcoming (someday) AA pilot contract.

I don't want to be a negative nancy but I don't want new hires to think that an upgrade is 6 yrs away.

Realistically, in 2016 will AE still have all the 37/44 seaters? All those 50 seaters? A contract? A demand for almost 3000 pilots?

That is how I think of it.

Congrats to the 04' guys upgrading though. It is good to see the turn around and movement at AE.

Flyby1206 11-06-2010 11:01 AM

JR CAs from the most recent bid award:

De-coder ring: Base/Seat/Equip.

Bases: N-LGA, J-JFK, M-MIA, D-DFW, O-ORD, L-LAX
Seat: Duh
Equip: E-ERJ, C-CRJ, A-ATR

NCE: 196 1/5/88
LCE: 1247 10/4/99
MCA: 1567 5/14/01
DCE: 1646 6/2/03
DCA: 1687 3/29/04
JCE: 1727 6/7/04
OCE: 1748 7/5/04
OCC: 1771 8/16/04
NCC: 1781 9/13/04

YoDigity514 11-06-2010 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 897123)
JR CAs from the most recent bid award:

NCE: 196 1/5/88
LCE: 1247 10/4/99
MCA: 1567 5/14/01
DCE: 1646 6/2/03
DCA: 1687 3/29/04
JCE: 1727 6/7/04
OCE: 1748 7/5/04
OCC: 1771 8/16/04
NCC: 1781 9/13/04

That may as well have been in Arabic. Can you explain those upgrade numbers in newbie language?


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 897014)
Check passrider.com for a list of commuting options and keep in mind when you fly AA/AE you will pay roughly $12 per flight for coach class when commuting until you hit 5yrs seniority. It is free to ride on other airlines.

Thank you thank you thank you! I have been looking for a site like this!

bailee atr 11-06-2010 11:37 AM

I'm on vacation, any idea when alpa will post the results???

Flyby1206 11-06-2010 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by YoDigity514 (Post 897134)
That may as well have been in Arabic. Can you explain those upgrade numbers in newbie language?

Lol yea, the three-letter code is Base/Seat/Equip. I added some info to the original post above, so re-check it. The next 4 digit number is the relative AE seniority number of the most junior CA from the most recent bid award. Last date is their date of hire at Eagle (Most statuses have dropped to a ~6yr upgrade).

bailee atr 11-06-2010 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 897192)
Next month.

Nice.... :D

172captain 11-08-2010 08:58 AM

Hey can anyone help me out. My airline app total was 1182TT, i havent added up my log book in awhile and when i did i only have 1136TT. I have an interview with eagle in dec and should have close to that 1182 by then, been flying around 70 hours a month.

Will they end my interview if my times dont match exactly?

Tsuda 11-08-2010 09:17 AM

I doubt it, just something for you and the interviewer to talk about.

YoDigity514 11-08-2010 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by 172captain (Post 897966)
Hey can anyone help me out. My airline app total was 1182TT, i havent added up my log book in awhile and when i did i only have 1136TT. I have an interview with eagle in dec and should have close to that 1182 by then, been flying around 70 hours a month.

Will they end my interview if my times dont match exactly?

I have heard that they will end the interview for paperwork not being correct. Check some of the gouges and you will see guys sent home because things did not line up exactly. What do I know though, I haven't interviewed there yet. :confused: Still waiting for the call, they said they would review my app in two days. This is day three.

Also, on airline apps you have to read the instructions to the T! They separate out your pic dual from your pic instructor. They want three separate pic totals pretty much. I know it is a pain (took me 30 hours over a week to fill out that app) but definitely get your app to reflect your logbook. If you are off by an hour or two, I imagine that would be ok.

Royer 11-09-2010 05:12 PM

Update you app to reflect the correct times, make sure your logbook adds up, and just be straight forward. They may pull the airapps the day of the interview. If they called you, they want to hire you. Try not to stress.

andy171773 11-09-2010 07:32 PM

How many newbies started on monday? How many they trying to stuff into classes these days?

PilotJ3 11-09-2010 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by andy171773 (Post 898953)
How many newbies started on monday? How many they trying to stuff into classes these days?

Monday = 11 CRJ & 12 ERJ

Nov 22 class (I'm on that one YAY!!!!) = they told me 25 with ORD EMB & CRJ, LGA CRJ & DFW ERJ

buddies8 11-10-2010 06:52 AM

about 3-4 Captains per class per equipement.
3 types, 2 classes per month thats 18-24 captains per month

wiz5422 11-10-2010 08:15 AM

Question: What do you guys think will be the best move for a new hire. Grabbing the ERJ out of ORD, hoping to bid for Dallas in the near future, or CRJ out of ORD. I am looking for quality of life, and I know that the cost of living is less in Dallas. I plan on living in base and not commuting at all. Thanks.

minimwage4 11-10-2010 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Royer (Post 898849)
Update you app to reflect the correct times, make sure your logbook adds up, and just be straight forward. They may pull the airapps the day of the interview. If they called you, they want to hire you. Try not to stress.

That's not true, they're not looking to hire you. If you are imperfect at an Eagle interview they will not hire you. I mean they actually give you whiteout to correct the hours of insignificant parts from your log book......................................Good luck, the number of times you made night landings matters more for Eagle than the applicant.

PilotJ3 11-10-2010 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 899116)
Question: What do you guys think will be the best move for a new hire. Grabbing the ERJ out of ORD, hoping to bid for Dallas in the near future, or CRJ out of ORD. I am looking for quality of life, and I know that the cost of living is less in Dallas. I plan on living in base and not commuting at all. Thanks.

Definetly ERJ, because the DFW CRJ will be moved to ORD soon. So you don't want to get stuck in ORD if you really want DFW.

172captain 11-10-2010 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 898972)
Monday = 11 CRJ & 12 ERJ

Nov 22 class (I'm on that one YAY!!!!) = they told me 25 with ORD EMB & CRJ, LGA CRJ & DFW ERJ

when did you have your interview?

PilotJ3 11-10-2010 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by 172captain (Post 899352)
when did you have your interview?

September 22

bgmann 11-10-2010 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 899116)
Question: What do you guys think will be the best move for a new hire. Grabbing the ERJ out of ORD, hoping to bid for Dallas in the near future, or CRJ out of ORD. I am looking for quality of life, and I know that the cost of living is less in Dallas. I plan on living in base and not commuting at all. Thanks.

Living in base and not commuting is the way to go. I tried that in ORD after probation by signing a 12month apartment contract and 3months in the apartment we furloughed and I was SENT to JFK!

I am in DFW and just bought a brand new 1month old house. I have a mother-in-law sweet available, but it requires a car. If your interested PM me. 25minutes to airport. In Keller, TX.

I was hired March 2008. I cant tell you which would have best QOL. Its just gonna suck for awhile brother. EMJ has better lines. Although the CRJ lines are changing and no one knows what their gonna be like. Not to be negative, but dont worry about what you get, your gonna be @#$%^& the first 1-2 years regardless of Equipment, I dont know what A/C you should bid. Good news is we have A LOT of movement happening! PM with questions. Wish I had a recommendation for you. But my recommendation is dont commute. I lived out of a suitcase for 2.5years minus the 3 months in the apartment.

Cruz5350 11-11-2010 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 899439)
Living in base and not commuting is the way to go. I tried that in ORD after probation by signing a 12month apartment contract and 3months in the apartment we furloughed and I was SENT to JFK!

I am in DFW and just bought a brand new 1month old house. I have a mother-in-law sweet available, but it requires a car. If your interested PM me. 25minutes to airport. In Keller, TX.

I was hired March 2008. I cant tell you which would have best QOL. Its just gonna suck for awhile brother. EMJ has better lines. Although the CRJ lines are changing and no one knows what their gonna be like. Not to be negative, but dont worry about what you get, your gonna be @#$%^& the first 1-2 years regardless of Equipment, I dont know what A/C you should bid. Good news is we have A LOT of movement happening! PM with questions. Wish I had a recommendation for you. But my recommendation is dont commute. I lived out of a suitcase for 2.5years minus the 3 months in the apartment.


That doesn't sound like much fun lol.

Royer 11-11-2010 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 899124)
That's not true, they're not looking to hire you. If you are imperfect at an Eagle interview they will not hire you. I mean they actually give you whiteout to correct the hours of insignificant parts from your log book......................................Good luck, the number of times you made night landings matters more for Eagle than the applicant.

Just an example of why your paperwork must be in order. IF THEY CALLED YOU, THEY WANT TO HIRE YOU. You just have to go in there and not screw it up.

I asked a guy that used to do interviews what they would send you home for. His said that you could techincally pass all portions of the interview, but if you were "marginal" that meant failure.

Pass the interview and don't just barely do it.

Royer 11-11-2010 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 899116)
Question: What do you guys think will be the best move for a new hire. Grabbing the ERJ out of ORD, hoping to bid for Dallas in the near future, or CRJ out of ORD. I am looking for quality of life, and I know that the cost of living is less in Dallas. I plan on living in base and not commuting at all. Thanks.

If you can avoid a commute, do it. Reasons live in base:

1. no crash pad ($$$)
2. no airplane ride to work ($$$ for 1st 5 yrs @ eagle)
3. you can make your lunches at home ($$$)
4. you can pick up OT easier ($$$)
5. ...and many more.

Money is very important when you only make 20k your first year.

PilotJ3 11-11-2010 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Royer (Post 899581)
If you can avoid a commute, do it. Reasons live in base:

1. no crash pad ($$$)
2. no airplane ride to work ($$$ for 1st 5 yrs @ eagle)
3. you can make your lunches at home ($$$)
4. you can pick up OT easier ($$$)
5. ...and many more.

Money is very important when you only make 20k your first year.

I must add (which is what I'm doing):

If you have a friend from the same or other company that live in that base already, talk with him/her and stay at their place for a wile until you have enough $$$ to rent something by your own. :rolleyes:

withthatsaid182 11-11-2010 07:52 PM

You won t break your ankle getting out of the top bunk in your crashpad.

You won t get shanked walking to your crashpad.

You won t have to share every communicable disease know to science with 12 other ppl.

There will still be light in your eyes and your heart.

All reasons wh you should live in base.

bgmann 11-11-2010 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 899903)
You won t get shanked walking to your crashpad.

He isn't joking boys and girls. My crashpad in Queens NY. A convenient walk to LGA. An guy was shot and died in a pool of blood on our steps to the cpad. Took awhile to remove the stain. He called his girlfriend, said he loved her and he was gone...

...So another reason to live in base. (it was gang/drug related. It wasn't an FO who had a bad landing, so thats good news! )

200SR20 11-12-2010 10:15 AM

I start in the Nov 22nd class and I was told that there will be 3 ATRs in MIA and 1 in DFW... Emb and crj were pretty spread out amongst DFW, ORD, and JFK. See you guys in class.

PilotJ3 11-12-2010 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by 200SR20 (Post 900133)
I start in the Nov 22nd class and I was told that there will be 3 ATRs in MIA and 1 in DFW... Emb and crj were pretty spread out amongst DFW, ORD, and JFK. See you guys in class.

Nice so they change it already, last week they told me Crj & Emb out of ORD, Crj lga and Emb out of dfw.

See You there!

121dj 11-12-2010 03:58 PM

In case I missed it, any word on time frame between interview and class date/equipment assignments? Interview date: 11/3/10.

PilotJ3 11-12-2010 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by 121dj (Post 900262)
In case I missed it, any word on time frame between interview and class date/equipment assignments? Interview date: 11/3/10.

I interviewed Sept 22 and start class Nov 22. So most likely 2 months. I got the call from the review board 3 weeks after interview.

So patience...that's all you need.

121dj 11-12-2010 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 870241)
Only a Windows Mobile 5.x or 6.x or an iPhone/iPod/iPad will run the AMR Sabre app. I have an Android Phone (which allows wireless hotspot for free ) and an Ipad....life is good.

What's the app called for the iPhone? It's not on Cydia or the app store.

200SR20 11-12-2010 04:36 PM

I interviewed on oct 11th and got my call back form the review board today and if I wanted the 22nd class date. Try not to think about it.

121dj 11-12-2010 04:41 PM

Nice! So, what base/eqt did you get? Were you hoping for something different?

Da Magic 11-12-2010 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by 121dj (Post 900275)
Nice! So, what base/eqt did you get? Were you hoping for something different?

You won't know for sure til after IOE

AEERJ145 11-12-2010 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Da Magic (Post 900278)
You won't know for sure til after IOE

You'll know equipment and base on your first day of INDOC

Da Magic 11-12-2010 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by AEERJ145 (Post 900298)
You'll know equipment and base on your first day of INDOC

How much you wanna bet? With SJU reducing in a few months and additions in other places, a displacement is looming. What base you get on day 1 won't necessarily be the base you go to at the end of long term training.

PilotJ3 11-12-2010 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by 200SR20 (Post 900274)
I interviewed on oct 11th and got my call back form the review board today and if I wanted the 22nd class date. Try not to think about it.

Jum with just one week from call I don't think you will make it on time. You have to do the medical first and will take like one week for the drug test results.


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