You are mistaken, or they misunderstood your question, or you misunderstood their answer.

What it boils down to is you are essentially wanting to log time in an airplane you are not rated to fly.

Your in depth paste job about acting and logging is wonderful reading...
show us the part where you can log time in something you aren't rated in.

This section is for commercial licensed pilots flying right seat in aircraft not requiring a type rating to be able to log their legs toward the time requirements for the ATP. For example, Cape Air has FO's in the C-402's. You are a licensed multi-commercial. You may log your legs towards the PIC requirements for the ATP, since you ARE licensed and rated to fly that airplane.

You can not log what you are not licensed or rated for.

There is another section in the FAR's which talks of performing the duties of the pilot in command under the supervision of the PIC... it has already been established that the "duties of PIC" include more than just simply flying the airplane. This section is typically used by baby captains to be able to log their first 25-75 hours as PIC while getting their IOE. They ARE performing the duties of PIC, under the supervision of the PIC (the check/IOE airman).

You aren't going to get around the 250 PIC requirement this way; and rightfully so. Think about it. Would you really want somebody with that little command decision making time flying your family around in bad weather? The regs exist for a reason, and the reason is generally safety or common sense related.

Perhaps when you really do upgrade B76 you'll understand how much more involved it is than learning to use a tiller, sign a release, and do a few extra sim maneuvers.

 

Well, I say it is safe to say that a good number have. What is this? An interrogation? Go bother someone else.

 

Anyone who thinks they can log PIC in one of our aircraft with only a SIC type should leave aviation right away. You obviously are one of those looking for the "fast track" to the majors your pathetic pay for all your time in 2 months schools you went to, told you would happen. You CAN NOT log time in an aircraft youre not rated in. Whats next for you guys, arguing about logging time in the 757 jump seat?

 

Yeah, that is not accurate. Not at all. You have to be Type Rated to log PIC in our aircraft period, that little silly SIC Type, is just banter on your certificate to get around loop holes. Right seat time can't be used towards the ATP PIC requirement, well because it's not PIC?

 

Of course. Rumor is they may be about to drop the mins, but in this business, don't believe anything until they publish it.

 

I'm checking everyday for a 50 hour drop, who knows , by the time it hits ill probably have my 800 tt.

 

You can do tose 50hrs in one month or so. Then you get worry about getting the interview. Fly as much as you can...

 

I'm not going to argue but the 250pic is a REQUIREMENT for the ATP, not for being a captain at eagle. For be a captain you need the ATP.

So if by any reason someone have an ATP without 250hrs PIC, then let me tell you that he/she is totally ILEGAL.

 

keep U the debate

 

Changing the subject a little... I'm scheduled for next class and since I'm 30+ I'm hoping I will be able to get the EMB, as I have previous 121 experience flying the 145. I was wondering how's the oral for the EMB family. Do you need to memorize the limitations for all 3 members of the Brazilian family? I suspect that the memory items are the same for all 3?

For the gentlemen currently flying the EMB at Eagle, is this powerpoint (http://www.eagle.alpa.org/LinkClick....H%2BfFn6k1I%3D) available from the ALPA website accurate and somewhat current? It says Memory Items REV.31.

Also, if you have that awesome file made available years ago from FS-STL for the 145, I would be extremely thankful to see what it looks like. PM if you want to help me out.