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05-25-2011, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 172captain
Who really cares
05-25-2011, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Originally Posted by CrustyFE
It's mostly about the training.....
Try reading it before making virtually baseless comments...
The most dangerous are the ones who think they're professionals, but aren't.
I do agree with your last statement. But professionalism is also a significant training issue, or a lack of training issue.
05-25-2011, 09:29 PM
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In my opinion, training is generally more important than experience.
A new pilot with little experience can be trained to proficiency. The military does this all the time. Of course, the military has the money to throw at training, so they can do that.
Private pilots usually don't have the money to throw at training like the military and even if they did, the same level of training found in the military usually can't be bought. With few exceptions.
An experienced pilot who has not received proper and/or recent training may be ill equipped to handle situations that stray beyond routine.
Experienced pilots generally have better judgement than newer pilots, unless the newer pilots have been trained in what constitutes good judgement.
Of course, this philosophy extends to any career field. Not just aviation.
A new pilot with little experience can be trained to proficiency. The military does this all the time. Of course, the military has the money to throw at training, so they can do that.
Private pilots usually don't have the money to throw at training like the military and even if they did, the same level of training found in the military usually can't be bought. With few exceptions.
An experienced pilot who has not received proper and/or recent training may be ill equipped to handle situations that stray beyond routine.
Experienced pilots generally have better judgement than newer pilots, unless the newer pilots have been trained in what constitutes good judgement.
Of course, this philosophy extends to any career field. Not just aviation.
05-26-2011, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CrustyFE
In my opinion, training is generally more important than experience.
A new pilot with little experience can be trained to proficiency. The military does this all the time. Of course, the military has the money to throw at training, so they can do that.
Private pilots usually don't have the money to throw at training like the military and even if they did, the same level of training found in the military usually can't be bought. With few exceptions.
An experienced pilot who has not received proper and/or recent training may be ill equipped to handle situations that stray beyond routine.
Experienced pilots generally have better judgement than newer pilots, unless the newer pilots have been trained in what constitutes good judgement.
Of course, this philosophy extends to any career field. Not just aviation.
A new pilot with little experience can be trained to proficiency. The military does this all the time. Of course, the military has the money to throw at training, so they can do that.
Private pilots usually don't have the money to throw at training like the military and even if they did, the same level of training found in the military usually can't be bought. With few exceptions.
An experienced pilot who has not received proper and/or recent training may be ill equipped to handle situations that stray beyond routine.
Experienced pilots generally have better judgement than newer pilots, unless the newer pilots have been trained in what constitutes good judgement.
Of course, this philosophy extends to any career field. Not just aviation.
05-26-2011, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by f16jetmech
I'm with you on this one... There is a very dangerous spot for pilots around that 500+ hour mark for private pilots because they THINK they know it all or that they are a GOOD pilot and get complacent... this is a proven statistic and psychological error. I'm sure there is a hour mark for commercial pilots as well.
I don't remember all the details and I don't know if the information is available online. I think it was based on either flight time around 4,000 hours or age about 40 years, or both. It stated those pilots were prone to complacency to a higher degree. Similar to what you're saying.
I'll see if I can find the article.
05-26-2011, 05:37 PM
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Well this week we've heard from the President of Eagle, the VP of flight ops, the COO of operations and one of the ALPA reps and not one of them mentioned divestiture being dead. They all claimed it was still in the works but nothing was decided yet. So I don't think we'll truly know until it the day it happens...
Also spoke with someone from the 4/11 class and they had a zero delay going to sim from ground. Had orals one day and started sim the next.
Also spoke with someone from the 4/11 class and they had a zero delay going to sim from ground. Had orals one day and started sim the next.
05-26-2011, 06:59 PM
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Even if AMR says the divestiture is off, if a good opportunity comes along that requires divesting Eagle, I don't think they will hesitate to do that at a moments notice.
ALPA just sent out an email that indicates the next batch of AE flow throughs could go anywhere from November 2011 to March 2012. It all depends on how AA recalls go. Nothing definite.
ALPA stated the latest recall rate as of tonight is 33%, or "one out of three" as they put it.
ALPA just sent out an email that indicates the next batch of AE flow throughs could go anywhere from November 2011 to March 2012. It all depends on how AA recalls go. Nothing definite.
ALPA stated the latest recall rate as of tonight is 33%, or "one out of three" as they put it.
05-27-2011, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by love2av8
Also spoke with someone from the 4/11 class and they had a zero delay going to sim from ground. Had orals one day and started sim the next.
As for RickT sorry but you just need to be patient talked to a buddy that is 4 weeks in front of me that didnt have a delay between Sim Checkride and Loft and he just picked up his third IOE trip in 4 weeks. Also, the weather that Dallas had this past week is not helping.
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