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bailee atr 10-03-2010 09:33 AM

I have a question on the new MIA EMB base. If they ever open a MIA emb base and I am a NCC can I bid MCE. I know you cant bid back to lower paying equipment, but does this constitue a newbase and equipment provision provided for in the contract. Or do you need both new base and new equipment which was the companies position with FO trying to switch from EMB to the NFC positions.

mwa1 10-03-2010 11:09 AM

don't be surprised if the new MIA jet base is not AEA

mrmak2 10-03-2010 04:11 PM

What is AEA?

TXav8r13 10-03-2010 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by mrmak2 (Post 879753)
What is AEA?

American Eagle Airlines

mrmak2 10-03-2010 07:24 PM

What airline will it be then?

mwa1 10-04-2010 04:48 AM

whoever has planes in the 50 seat range and can free them up

mrmak2 10-04-2010 11:15 AM

I don't forsee that as a realistic option. The ord airplanes already fly through Mia. That theory was tried with trans states and now it's back to eagle so I do not see there being a cost advantage for American enough to justify the operational disruptions of bringing in a separate airline.

atp409 10-04-2010 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by bailee atr (Post 879641)
I have a question on the new MIA EMB base. If they ever open a MIA emb base and I am a NCC can I bid MCE. I know you cant bid back to lower paying equipment, but does this constitue a newbase and equipment provision provided for in the contract. Or do you need both new base and new equipment which was the companies position with FO trying to switch from EMB to the NFC positions.

JFK EMB Fo's were not allowed to bid JFK CRJ FO even though it was new equipment in an existing base. I think ALPA is investigating. I think the company said you can't bid to a lateral pay grade. Captains were allowed to bid it because it pays more in the left seat.

mwa1 10-04-2010 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by mrmak2 (Post 880058)
I don't forsee that as a realistic option. The ord airplanes already fly through Mia. That theory was tried with trans states and now it's back to eagle so I do not see there being a cost advantage for American enough to justify the operational disruptions of bringing in a separate airline.


if eagle doesn't have the airframes what option do they have?

lavMan 10-05-2010 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by mwa1 (Post 880206)
if eagle doesn't have the airframes what option do they have?

I've heard they overnight and run up to 14 planes in MIA? Don't know the truth to this, but if it's been this way for a while, I guess they've been making it work?


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