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What 10-18-2011 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1071189)
Remember, they are planning for 700+ new hires for 2012. Its all based on AE pilots flowing to AA. All this could come to a stop the way things are going. As for TDY I have no clue.
Prepare for the worst., hope for the best.

The more things suck at AMR the more AA pilots will retire, It saved AMR money to flow as many pilots to AA as possible.

An AE Captain making $110,000 a year can be replaced by an AE captain making $60,000 plus his upgrade training $25,000 and the FO replacement for this upgrade captain and 1st year pay equals around $45,000.

So just in 1st year pay they can almost break even. Not including 401k matching, vacation time for a senior Captain. It will save allot of money. Of course these numbers are not the actual numbers just an approximation.

The TDY, the company didn't advertise the TDY for DFA-MFA and then since no one volunteered for obvious reasons, the junior guys on base were supposed to be Involuntary TDY. So of course the junior guys didn't like it and senior guys wanted it created a problem and since the company messed up they cancelled the TDY. This coming month MFA will be extremely short.

cantwin 10-18-2011 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by What (Post 1071226)
Would be interesting if they would hire you knowing that you are going to be a medical liability (that's the way it would be looked at). How long are you going to be on Medical leave for? If it's a while you would have to complete long term once again and they probably won't hire you at this time.

I mean like, since I'll be on probation, could they "terminate" me for that reason? I'm only talking 3-4 weeks max.

What 10-18-2011 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by cantwin (Post 1071245)
I mean like, since I'll be on probation, could they "terminate" me for that reason? I'm only talking 3-4 weeks max.

You probably know the answer, I am not saying don't tell them and deal with it when it comes to it, but think how the company operates and how they treat their pilots. Go back a few weeks reading here and get your answer.

boilerpilot 10-18-2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by cantwin (Post 1071245)
I mean like, since I'll be on probation, could they "terminate" me for that reason? I'm only talking 3-4 weeks max.

I don't work for Eagle, but have spent some time in hiring departments. Do not under any circumstances tell them. While it's illegal to not hire you based on a future medical issue, we all know there are plenty of reasons they can find to not hire you. Legally they are prohibited from asking you ANYthing about your health, so the only way they can find out is if you volunteer the information. Hint: don't volunteer the information. People get sick or injured all the time; it's something companies plan for (i.e. reserve pilots and junior assignments).

Also, they can't terminate you for going on medical leave within your probationary year either. It is true that during your requal training (if required) they could conceivably terminate you for performance issues or the good old "good moral character" during the check ride. This, however, would raise a plethora of legal flags that any two bit freshly barred lawyer could use against the company in a wrongful termination suit. It would be an open and shut case for you, with the company probably settling. The legal system looks extremely unfavorably on anything that could be construed as retaliatory termination after medical leave.

Basically, nobody should ever be afraid to go on medical leave if you have to. Just make sure it's documented.

The Chow 10-18-2011 11:16 AM

Miami TDY
 
What,

I saw an HI6 that had a bunch of folks from DFA listed as involuntary to MIA. I actually thought it was a joke because the last sentence said "all others thanks for playing". So you're saying that was real and now cancelled?

Miami ATR only has 25 lines plus the composit. We've been running with 4-5 guys on reserve for a few months now. Basically we do all the standby's and the SJU & DFW guys will do the Miami flying.

But the December flow has 6-7 guys moving over to Miami so maybe I'll get one of the holidays off. :rolleyes:

What 10-18-2011 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by The Chow (Post 1071282)
What,

I saw an HI6 that had a bunch of folks from DFA listed as involuntary to MIA. I actually thought it was a joke because the last sentence said "all others thanks for playing". So you're saying that was real and now cancelled?

Miami ATR only has 25 lines plus the composit. We've been running with 4-5 guys on reserve for a few months now. Basically we do all the standby's and the SJU & DFW guys will do the Miami flying.

But the December flow has 6-7 guys moving over to Miami so maybe I'll get one of the holidays off. :rolleyes:

The HI6 you are speaking of was sent late at night or early morning but it was later cancelled because of people making enough noise about it not being anounced. The company either intentionally or my mistake didn't advertise the TDY.

embraer 10-18-2011 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by cantwin (Post 1071218)
Curious how long you have to be at Eagle before you can go on Medical leave? I have a surgery that is scheduled within the 1 year mark.

Your answer is in FM1. I don't remember off the top of my head or I would answer it for you. I know you can be given a leave of absence during your first year.

Also, hopefully by now you have noticed and made a mental list of those APC members who are only here to act like DBs and stir the pot while never providing any kind of help. I suggest never replying to their posts, just ignore them.

cantwin 10-18-2011 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1071339)
Your answer is in FM1. I don't remember off the top of my head or I would answer it for you. I know you can be given a leave of absence during your first year.

Also, hopefully by now you have noticed and made a mental list of those APC members who are only here to act like DBs and stir the pot while never providing any kind of help. I suggest never replying to their posts, just ignore them.

Been doing that since I joined the first aviation message board about 8 years ago. Thanks for the advise though.

What 10-18-2011 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1071339)
Your answer is in FM1. I don't remember off the top of my head or I would answer it for you. I know you can be given a leave of absence during your first year.

Also, hopefully by now you have noticed and made a mental list of those APC members who are only here to act like DBs and stir the pot while never providing any kind of help. I suggest never replying to their posts, just ignore them.

The point that someone made a few post ago, you probably won't be fired for having to take medical leave since they would have to hire a replacement for you and spend more money on truing cost. Go for it but just don't volunteer any information that is not required. Don't lie, just answer what they need to know, not more. The people in the hiring department are great guys who are pilots and have similar goals in aviation as we do. But they have a job to do and that is to hire the most qualified candidates. Someone who tell you that they have to go get surgery and could be out for a prolonged period of time could be looked as a liability. Fill out your applications, get hired, do your job and take care of your self. Good Luck, if you need info PM me.

The Chow 10-18-2011 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by cantwin (Post 1071341)
Been doing that since I joined the first aviation message board about 8 years ago. Thanks for the advise though.

Have you put a call into the union? They can't "protect" you while on probation but I'm sure they would have salient advise.


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