We don't have any ATR 42 left on the books as of July 2011;

Active Aircraft:

Bombardier CRJ-700 (25)
Bombardier CRJ-700NG (22)
Embraer RJ-135 (21)
Embraer RJ-140 (59)
Embraer RJ-145 (118)
Super ATR 72 (24)
Super ATR 72-212A (12)

Inactive Aircraft:

Embraer RJ-135 (18)
Super ATR 72 (3)
Saab 340B (41)

The math doesn't add up unless they want to keep 8 ATR, 6 have already been returned, the 3 that were in storage, 2 72-212A from DFW and 1 out of MIA. If we return 31 that would leave only 8, and if I am not mistaken that's the size of SJU. Miami ERJ is shrinking so it will be interesting to see what they plan on doing with the MIA feed.

 

We have 33 ATRs left since 6 have been returned and a total of 15 are supposed to be returned in the next few weeks as DFW ATR base closes.

*Why would the court not let aircraft replacement being brought in, they allowed the 40 737 (they were purchased outside of BK) (and I don't mean this as trolling, it's a question). These aircraft would be leases and if they are worked with current lessors as replacement for the older aircraft t it could possibly work for the creditors as well as AMR. The lessor is in business to lease aircraft (more money to be maid by leasing newer aircraft) and the manufacture is in business to build aircraft (I believe the ERJ are leased by Embreaer). But we don't have a business plan, so we don't know what the fleet will look like as well who will be flying the current or future airplanes for AMR.

 

Dl placed orders for rjs in bk

 

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Great first post.

 

Well if American plans on keeping most of it's fleet then the Eagle flow through may start back up again at a point sooner than expected. The 300 or so pilots that retired early were not expected to cause a significant pilot shortage because parking or getting rid of aircraft under chap 11 would have absorbed the effect of that pilot shortage. Also, American is reported to have a higher pilot density per aircraft than other legacy carriers which was also expected to negate the effect of a pilot shortage. Apparently, that's part of the APA contract.

So just wondering how soon the Eagle flow throughs will resume. I would guess sometime within the next year but probably sooner.

All speculation on my part of course. I don't mind throwing in a bit of optimism to the discussion but a grain of salt is need with that as well...

 

I read in another thread that one of United's regionals was reactivating or getting back some EMB 135s. That seems counter intuitive to all the discussion of RJs lately but could it be the start of a new trend in the industry?

If Eagle is to keep all of our EMBs in spite of all the discussion otherwise it may signal the reversal of some planned removal of smaller jets..

 

I doubt very soon at all. Some aircraft will be parked, that's for sure..and don't forget, even before bankruptcy there was a replacement schedule for the new orders...that will be a SMALLER fleet than what they have now (when it's all said and done).

On top of that, the APA contract will be gutted to the point where they will require far fewer crews to staff the now slightly smaller AA. AA pilots are by far the most unproductive pilot group in the nation....that will change.

 

Yeah but I think that LM had sold the 255 rj's tied to the DL fleet scope deal. APA has yet to make any such concession.

 

And what you think is the percentage of AA pilots that will retire when they have to work allot harder for less money, learn a new aircraft and spend more days away from mama!