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12-17-2010 | 07:13 AM
#621
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: B6
nice thanks for the info. I interviewed Nov 10th, but found out last week my last employer never faxed over all the pre employment papers ... I think it all should have been in this week ..so hoping they got me in the review board for today.
12-17-2010 | 08:00 AM
#622
Line Holder
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Well, out of training may be a stretch, though after the last bid, the most junior pilot awarded LAX EMB FO has a seniority number of 2782, out of 2857 pilots on the seniority list (or 75 from the bottom -- all but unheard of around here as LAX is our most senior base due to its relatively small size).
Keep in mind, though, that although you may be able to hold LAX within your first 3-6 months, reserve may potentially be 2 years, and I can tell you that commuting for reserve is nothing short of miserable (even if the commute is an easy one). Take that with a grain of salt, as there is a lot of movement here these days, however today the junior lineholders in LAX have about 4-5 years seniority. That will come down as the LAX EMB flying increases and as long as upgrades continue well into 2011.
In the beginning, it'll all be the same. You'll be on reserve wherever you are. However, if QOL has any importance to you, you may find yourself considering ORD after a few months of commuting to reserve in LAX, as you'll almost certainly hold a line in ORD looooong before you would in LAX. But whatever floats your boat!
As for the latest apparent fleet plan, LAX and JFK will both see CRJ flying introduced in 2011 (moreso for LAX), however it appears all this flying will be done by ORD based crews.
Keep in mind, though, that although you may be able to hold LAX within your first 3-6 months, reserve may potentially be 2 years, and I can tell you that commuting for reserve is nothing short of miserable (even if the commute is an easy one). Take that with a grain of salt, as there is a lot of movement here these days, however today the junior lineholders in LAX have about 4-5 years seniority. That will come down as the LAX EMB flying increases and as long as upgrades continue well into 2011.
In the beginning, it'll all be the same. You'll be on reserve wherever you are. However, if QOL has any importance to you, you may find yourself considering ORD after a few months of commuting to reserve in LAX, as you'll almost certainly hold a line in ORD looooong before you would in LAX. But whatever floats your boat!
As for the latest apparent fleet plan, LAX and JFK will both see CRJ flying introduced in 2011 (moreso for LAX), however it appears all this flying will be done by ORD based crews.
Also, what are typical trips at Eagle like? How many legs, length of duty, overnights, etc?
Min days off for lineholders?
Thanks for any info
12-17-2010 | 11:28 AM
#623
SDQ Base Chief
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: 320 CA
Any guesses on how long of reserve in ORD for new hires? Someone posted about the ability to drop days; is this realistic as a new hire on reserve?
Also, what are typical trips at Eagle like? How many legs, length of duty, overnights, etc?
Min days off for lineholders?
Thanks for any info
Also, what are typical trips at Eagle like? How many legs, length of duty, overnights, etc?
Min days off for lineholders?
Thanks for any info
Typical trips at Eagle on the ERJ in ORD are 4 day trips, 3-5 legs per day, 18-23hrs per 4-day trip. Duty days can be anywhere from 7hrs-14hrs(they cant schedule more than 14) and overnights from 8-17+hrs with the average running around 10-14hrs. There are some lines with day trips, 2-day trips, and sometimes 3-day trips but they go very senior and you wont need to worry about them for a while
Min days off for lineholders is 12, but I have seen lines with 11 days off for some reason... Min reserve days off is 11.
12-17-2010 | 11:37 AM
#624
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Reclined
When did you guys lose the min scheduled overnight as 8.5 hours? Back in the day, they used to reduce it when we ran late to 8, but they never were allowed to schedule 8 to begin with.... what did you guys get during the amendment round for that one?
When I was there, I never did reduced rest anyway... always got my 8 behind the door. A few friends that still work there say they will give anybody 8 behind the door if they call and ask for it. What's been your experience?
12-17-2010 | 12:03 PM
#625
SDQ Base Chief
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,079
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From: 320 CA
When did you guys lose the min scheduled overnight as 8.5 hours? Back in the day, they used to reduce it when we ran late to 8, but they never were allowed to schedule 8 to begin with.... what did you guys get during the amendment round for that one?
When I was there, I never did reduced rest anyway... always got my 8 behind the door. A few friends that still work there say they will give anybody 8 behind the door if they call and ask for it. What's been your experience?
When I was there, I never did reduced rest anyway... always got my 8 behind the door. A few friends that still work there say they will give anybody 8 behind the door if they call and ask for it. What's been your experience?
If I have an 8hr overnight and I feel rested in the morning then I go to work and do my job. If I have a 17hr overnight where I dont sleep well and feel like crap in the morning I call in fatigued. The company has always been great about honoring our fatigue policy and I've never had any issues, or heard of anyone getting crap for calling in fatigued.
Fatigue and rest required are something personal to every pilot. I can usually hit the pillow and get a good night sleep on an 8hr overnight. Some people are too wired when they get to the hotel and need some time to wind down. Some people are light sleepers and wake up easily in the middle of a 17hr overnight because of noise in the hallway. Some people sleep through fire alarms!
The people who do biatch are the ones who feel fatigued, but dont do anything about it.
12-17-2010 | 12:16 PM
#626
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Reclined
12-18-2010 | 08:17 AM
#629
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2010
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12-18-2010 | 08:19 AM
#630
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AE will only be getting another 180 or so max over to AA by then and then AA has to start calling furloughed AA natives, so it would seem 360 would be a better number. Not sure how many apps they have, but 600 to hire 360 is pretty lean for a company that wants to be able to weed out the nimrods.
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