Colgan upgrades?
03-17-2010, 03:20 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by whtever
Because the upgrades slowed, those FOs are more "ready" to upgrade than the guys before them....interesting
I am just making a general point and do not fit in the group that has a sense of entitlement. I come from a background where you work for every inch and privilege you get to include my previous employer. In all actuality I will likely be onto another job before my upgrade or will turn upgrade down until I move on in the near future.
In my personal case upgrade is not an upgrade at all. I go to the saab and make 10K more than I make now and sit reserve, non commutable.
Last edited by usmc-sgt; 03-17-2010 at 03:37 PM.
03-18-2010, 03:12 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by BeaglePilot
Management can hire Street CA's tomorrow, and there isen't a damn thing the pilot group or CJC ALPA can do about it.
Until we get a contract the bottom line is that they can do whatever they want.
03-18-2010, 03:19 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
Here is the winner. There were talks a week or so ago about hiring some lynx guys for the dash 8 and the pilot group was rightfully up in arms over it since we have FOs on the seniority list who bid it.
Until we get a contract the bottom line is that they can do whatever they want.
Until we get a contract the bottom line is that they can do whatever they want.
03-19-2010, 11:06 PM
#25
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Position: line...reserve...furlough
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I don't blame any flight instructors or anybody else taking this job because it's a BETTER OPPORTUNITY and you're just trying to get you're foot in the door.(I remember I would have done anything to get out of flight instructing.) However, any furloughed people that have the experience, why waiste you're time? Wait it out. I found a non flying job making just as much as I did as a 3rd year jet FO. No reason to sell yourself for 18,000 per year, commuting on reserve, when it isn't going to help your career. Sorry to offend, but I felt like I was underpaid making over 30,000 my last two years. Not worth it to be away from home half the time, doing 5 legs per day.
03-20-2010, 07:18 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by NightHawk
I don't blame any flight instructors or anybody else taking this job because it's a BETTER OPPORTUNITY and you're just trying to get you're foot in the door.(I remember I would have done anything to get out of flight instructing.) However, any furloughed people that have the experience, why waiste you're time? Wait it out. I found a non flying job making just as much as I did as a 3rd year jet FO. No reason to sell yourself for 18,000 per year, commuting on reserve, when it isn't going to help your career. Sorry to offend, but I felt like I was underpaid making over 30,000 my last two years. Not worth it to be away from home half the time, doing 5 legs per day.
With any luck we'll have a contract by summer 2011 and QOL will improve greatly! We'll see.
03-22-2010, 03:02 PM
#29
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I upgraded in a year at Colgan and flew with Chris Wiken a lot before he upgraded. He was preparing hard for months before he ever was called for the upgrade.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear about 2-3 year FO's that do not appear to be ready. When one sees the upgrade coming in 6 months to a year they will pay more attention to the captains flows and company manuals out of sheer terror. Once the upgrade gets closer I bet you see everyone get better, ask more questions, and what not because they know the upgrade is near.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear about 2-3 year FO's that do not appear to be ready. When one sees the upgrade coming in 6 months to a year they will pay more attention to the captains flows and company manuals out of sheer terror. Once the upgrade gets closer I bet you see everyone get better, ask more questions, and what not because they know the upgrade is near.
03-23-2010, 11:38 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by AxialFlow
Let's do our part to make sure it's a contract we like, and not a sub-par contract with promises of future returns.
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