I dont expect a captain to know and respect me as soon as i walk in, his cautiousness is absolutely fine. But calling me a "Play Pilot" or "Wet-ATP-Kid-Wonder" is an insult and that is not ok, and further more the kid part in the last quote has everything to do with age. As does the other posters talking about me being 20 and not having enough life experience. So there most deff has been some reference to my age as well as others.

I dont claim to be an amazing pilot, i dont claim to have paid my dues, and i dont say every young or new pilot is worthy of a FO seat or should be fully trusted, i am also not saying the captain should trust everyone who sits in the other seat. What i am saying is that if you are the captain maturity and respect should be given to anyone sitting in the other seat and that is clearly not the case with SOME captians. We can argue til the sun goes down, i am plenty humble just have some issues with people insulting me without knowing me. And yes there have been plenty of generalizations by them that has grouped me into these pilots and i take offense so i say something.

Not one person here can say my logic is faulty because all im saying and all ive been saying is that some captains insulting most all new FOs without 121 exp is unacceptable especially in an industry that demands professionalism.

 

Here's your first word of advice for when you make it into the 121 world. Introduce yourself to the captain, be yourself, and be professional. If he's a douche, derogatory, ugly, funny-looking, or anything else that might annoy you, simply be polite, professional, and quiet. There's nothing wrong with not arguing with a guy you might be stuck with on a 4-day trip simply to save pride. Sometimes a quiet cockpit is best purely for sanity.

I simply smile when some jackass talks or looks down at me when I fly a little 150 at the FBO for fun and they get out of their Baron, King Air or helicopter, full well knowing that I fly something bigger, better, and all over the world, seeing things they only wish they could. What they don't know doesn't hurt them, and they still get to go home and think they're cool.

Long story short - chill. Step back, let people talk. Guaranteed, you aren't the only one who thinks someone is a blowhard.

 

agreed, ive been insulted on these forums so much i just finally said something but now i do regret it simply because of the outburst i caused. You are right though its best to let it go.

 

You are proving our point by all of your retorts. You post on a public message board a message that is filled with attitude and anger and you get upset when people push back. Of COURSE we don't kow you. If thats what you want....people to know you and judge you by different means...then stop posting on a public site and scratch your head when you get responses like you have.

Saying your humble and respectful doesn't mean you are when your posts oooze with attitude and a lack of humbleness. Actions speak louder than words. You might want to start LISTENING instead of speaking and you'll learn alot more.

You see in most endeavors, and 121 is no exception, there is something called a right of passage. I went through it, we all went through it. Part of that is that the more experienced guys like to teach, like to kid, like to see your fortitude. Your going to need to learn to let things roll of your back with a grin and LEARN instead of reacting like you have here with attitude, irritability and being easily offended. The more you act like that the longer that right of passage will be. You'll rapidly grow a thick skin or sink.

BUT, youth usually likes to learn the hard way no matter what people say so good luck. You'll need it if and when you get to this level with your current attitude.

 

Based on asims above post, I believe he understands. Not to forget that the sign of a good captain is one who knows when to drop it, too.

 

Beating a dead horse man, ive repeated myself enough. All the answers to your questions are in past-posts that i made if you really wish to continue this you may PM me. Otherwise i would rather not continue this endless argument into ethics and explaining myself.

 

Another problem asims is that you talk way too much.

 

I ended the convo its over...move along

 

I agree with your advice. However, I have to ask about what I highlighted in bold. Aren't you just as guilty as said jackass by implying that your bigger airplane is better? How do you know that they wish they could see any of the things you see? No matter how much bigger your airplane and no matter how many things you see that you think other people wish they could, doesn't necessarily mean that you're envied.

Sometimes people are content with flying a smaller airplane locally and to them, it might be "better" to being away from home for a couple or three weeks.

 

ahhhh - touche. This was based on a generalization of what I perceive the typical mentality of an aspiring professional pilot to be or type A hotshot (everyone knows what I am talking about). I leaned in the direction that the bigger the plane the better, when I was younger, and apparently still do a little bit, although I thought I had mostly pulled away from that - I love flying anything I can get my hands on. I will still stand by my example, though, with the folks I am generalizing.