Colgan Staffing question
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Not exactly sure where you heard about us loosing any EAS flying in those markets officially, but I think you will see some EAS routes being out-bid by other airline. I can almost 100% assure you that PNCL Holdings will bid these routes, but whether they can afford to fly them at the subsidized rates is speculation at this point.
Also, even if we hypothetically were to loose this flying. It only effects THREE lines of flying, and we have the NE for the summer and likely will pick-up more markets for UEX in the fall. The sum total of all this will be a wash, equaling more growth in actual number of pilots on the property, because we have firm orders for 30 "Qs" thru the end of 2011 and another 15 more in 2013. SAAB is on it's way out, and so is EAS flying at Colgan Air (eventually) and wouldn't be surprised to see PNCL announce more orders for even more "Qs" once the code-share shell game is completed at both Delta and United/Continental. The landscape in the airline business can and must change. More consolidation, less mainline flying and more large turboprops...Someone is going to pull the trigger on the Q-400X (90 seater) in the next couple of years also...
Regards, and happy speculating!
ex-Navy Rotorhead
Also, even if we hypothetically were to loose this flying. It only effects THREE lines of flying, and we have the NE for the summer and likely will pick-up more markets for UEX in the fall. The sum total of all this will be a wash, equaling more growth in actual number of pilots on the property, because we have firm orders for 30 "Qs" thru the end of 2011 and another 15 more in 2013. SAAB is on it's way out, and so is EAS flying at Colgan Air (eventually) and wouldn't be surprised to see PNCL announce more orders for even more "Qs" once the code-share shell game is completed at both Delta and United/Continental. The landscape in the airline business can and must change. More consolidation, less mainline flying and more large turboprops...Someone is going to pull the trigger on the Q-400X (90 seater) in the next couple of years also...
Regards, and happy speculating!
ex-Navy Rotorhead
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I've found this article online stating that Gulfstream and a few other companies have bid less money for JST/AOO but the local govt. would prefer to continue with Colgan with flights to IAD.
Haven't been able to find anything on BKW/SHD. As stated above, my guess is it all works itself out. But what do I know?
#64
According to this article, Gulfstream was chosen to operate PKB.
#65
Hi!
It doesn't matter what happens about the EAS routes, and your fearmongering sounds just like the DAL/NWA guys who were screaming FURLOUGHS!!! every week for the past two years, until this week when DAL announced new hires, which is kind of like furloughing, but different.
Colgan will hire indefinitely. Maybe it will slow down in 2013 or later.
Not everyone has to resign seniority.
cliff
LFW
It doesn't matter what happens about the EAS routes, and your fearmongering sounds just like the DAL/NWA guys who were screaming FURLOUGHS!!! every week for the past two years, until this week when DAL announced new hires, which is kind of like furloughing, but different.
Colgan will hire indefinitely. Maybe it will slow down in 2013 or later.
Not everyone has to resign seniority.
cliff
LFW
#66
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Not exactly sure where you heard about us loosing any EAS flying in those markets officially, but I think you will see some EAS routes being out-bid by other airline. I can almost 100% (You just live a more sure life than I live, even high certainty in my life is something like 90%) assure you that PNCL Holdings will bid these routes, but whether they can afford to fly them at the subsidized rates is speculation at this point.
Also, even if we hypothetically were to loose(Your tie is loose, you would lose flying, yes it matters.) this flying. It only effects THREE lines of flying, and we have the NE for the summer and likely will pick-up more markets for UEX in the fall. The sum total of all this will be a wash, equaling more growth in actual number of pilots on the property, because we have firm orders for 30 "Qs" (Actually you have 15 Firm orders and another 30 total options, you'd think you'd know that working there) thru the end of 2011 and another 15 more in 2013. SAAB is on it's way out(Agreed), and so is EAS flying at Colgan Air (eventually) and wouldn't be surprised to see PNCL announce more orders for even more "Qs" once the code-share shell game is completed at both Delta and United/Continental(Delta doesn't want turboprops Q or not, United/Continental depends on who's scope wins. If New United keeps 70 seat jet scope then Q's may or may not be in demand, if by some miracle Continentals 50 seat jet scope prevails then the Q would be in demand, assuming the merged group doesn't close the loophole now that it's exposed). The landscape in the airline business can and must change.(Agreed) More consolidation, less mainline flying and more large turboprops(Maybe, we as pilots should hope for more mainline not less since if you're working at Colgan you're probably looking for a quick upgrade and PIC turbine to move to a major, no major flying no moving on from bad contract... )...Someone is going to pull the trigger on the Q-400X (90 seater) (Gosh lets hope not, unless there's some increase in pay lets hope the race to the bottom doesn't continue) in the next couple of years also...
Regards, and happy speculating!
ex-Navy Rotorhead
Also, even if we hypothetically were to loose(Your tie is loose, you would lose flying, yes it matters.) this flying. It only effects THREE lines of flying, and we have the NE for the summer and likely will pick-up more markets for UEX in the fall. The sum total of all this will be a wash, equaling more growth in actual number of pilots on the property, because we have firm orders for 30 "Qs" (Actually you have 15 Firm orders and another 30 total options, you'd think you'd know that working there) thru the end of 2011 and another 15 more in 2013. SAAB is on it's way out(Agreed), and so is EAS flying at Colgan Air (eventually) and wouldn't be surprised to see PNCL announce more orders for even more "Qs" once the code-share shell game is completed at both Delta and United/Continental(Delta doesn't want turboprops Q or not, United/Continental depends on who's scope wins. If New United keeps 70 seat jet scope then Q's may or may not be in demand, if by some miracle Continentals 50 seat jet scope prevails then the Q would be in demand, assuming the merged group doesn't close the loophole now that it's exposed). The landscape in the airline business can and must change.(Agreed) More consolidation, less mainline flying and more large turboprops(Maybe, we as pilots should hope for more mainline not less since if you're working at Colgan you're probably looking for a quick upgrade and PIC turbine to move to a major, no major flying no moving on from bad contract... )...Someone is going to pull the trigger on the Q-400X (90 seater) (Gosh lets hope not, unless there's some increase in pay lets hope the race to the bottom doesn't continue) in the next couple of years also...
Regards, and happy speculating!
ex-Navy Rotorhead
#67
Hi!
It doesn't matter what happens about the EAS routes, and your fearmongering sounds just like the DAL/NWA guys who were screaming FURLOUGHS!!! every week for the past two years, until this week when DAL announced new hires, which is kind of like furloughing, but different.
Colgan will hire indefinitely. Maybe it will slow down in 2013 or later.
Not everyone has to resign seniority.
cliff
LFW
It doesn't matter what happens about the EAS routes, and your fearmongering sounds just like the DAL/NWA guys who were screaming FURLOUGHS!!! every week for the past two years, until this week when DAL announced new hires, which is kind of like furloughing, but different.
Colgan will hire indefinitely. Maybe it will slow down in 2013 or later.
Not everyone has to resign seniority.
cliff
LFW
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Hey, thanks a lot for the assist with the syntax, grammar and spelling lesson. Personally, I could care less if this turd of an airline actually succeeds in the long-term. And, for the record...I have ALREADY had the upgrade...HAVE 2000+ PIC turbine and have NO ambition to "move onto a major". There is no major airline on my horizon, and if I didn't have to be here now for the second time I sure as hell wouldn't be. So, thanks again for your input and display of pompous ignorance, because obviously you don't work at 9L (lucky for you)...Probably another XJET tool that's dragging in that POS Brazilian ramp FOD at 140 knots on a 10-mile final...
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Hey, thanks a lot for the assist with the syntax, grammar and spelling lesson. Personally, I could care less if this turd of an airline actually succeeds in the long-term. And, for the record...I have ALREADY had the upgrade...HAVE 2000+ PIC turbine and have NO ambition to "move onto a major". There is no major airline on my horizon, and if I didn't have to be here now for the second time I sure as hell wouldn't be. So, thanks again for your input and display of pompous ignorance, because obviously you don't work at 9L (lucky for you)...Probably another XJET tool that's dragging in that POS Brazilian ramp FOD at 140 knots on a 10-mile final...
And the rest of my post was a pretty fair assesment. Once again, it's 15 more firm Q's and 30 options, just to be clear who exactly is ignorant. And I'm not sure how XJET would feel about your comment towards their airline.
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