CAL/UAL Pilots Wanna stop Outsourcing to Reg
08-30-2010 | 01:03 PM
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You couldn't really group Trans States in there, at least not for a lack of trying to fly bigger jets. If they had their way back in 2005, they'd be flying CRJ-700s right now. Luckily (or mostly unluckily, depending on how you look at it), Trans States got screwed by management, hence GoJet. Plus, some of those MRJs have been promised to Trans States, provided:
1. TSA survives contract negotiations (which is looking grim),
2. Mitsubishi actually meets their deadline,
3. TSH finds flying for those aircraft.
That's my two pennies.
On topic: Hopefully CAL/UAL will succeed.
1. TSA survives contract negotiations (which is looking grim),
2. Mitsubishi actually meets their deadline,
3. TSH finds flying for those aircraft.
That's my two pennies.
On topic: Hopefully CAL/UAL will succeed.
Makes me happy I'm not associated with any of those 3 companies and sorry for anyone who is.
08-31-2010 | 05:06 AM
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I hope this scope pushes through. I fly a 70 turboprop and yes I would love to see mainline have that flying. And a regional be a true regional flying short hops to hubs. Not this 50 seat RJ stuff from Houston to Toronto. And even though some of these oustourced airlines fly nothing but 50 seat jets, whats the difference from them flying 2 50 seat for every 1 70 seat. Just because its a 50 seat jet they think they arent touching mainline flying.
I hope the scope is approved. They deserve it.
I hope the scope is approved. They deserve it.
08-31-2010 | 06:19 AM
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08-31-2010 | 07:00 AM
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I think they're more then willing to do this. The obvious fight would be from lifers at the regionals. But it's not their flying. It belongs to mainline, and so will most of the jets.
08-31-2010 | 07:00 AM
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New UAL will own/control leases on 60% the jets being flown by its regionals. If this did happen it would be bad for RJ lifer's! Personally I would take 2nd year pay at Delta/SWA/UAL over 7 RJ Capt pay any day, its sad people think $85 an hour is a decent wage in this industry, that's what my Dad was paid to sit at the panel on the 72 back at Eastern in 1982. Next few years are going to be interesting for the regionals with all the mergers etc. There will be 3/4 majors left and maybe 3/4 super regionals all with large pilot groups that should be able to flex some muscle.
08-31-2010 | 07:08 AM
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New UAL will own/control leases on 60% the jets being flown by its regionals. If this did happen it would be bad for RJ lifer's! Personally I would take 2nd year pay at Delta/SWA/UAL over 7 RJ Capt pay any day. Next few years are going to be interesting for the regionals with all the mergers etc. There will be 3/4 majors left and maybe 3/4 super regionals all with large pilot groups that should be able to flex some muscle.
08-31-2010 | 07:20 AM
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I don't think the undercutting is a problem. There are furloughed guys flying right seat of the RJ/Brasilia right now(Jets 4 Jobs) for horrible pay so that's no big deal. Just take the same pay rates. Done.
I think they're more then willing to do this. The obvious fight would be from lifers at the regionals. But it's not their flying. It belongs to mainline, and so will most of the jets.
I think they're more then willing to do this. The obvious fight would be from lifers at the regionals. But it's not their flying. It belongs to mainline, and so will most of the jets.
I don't think you're speaking for a majority!
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