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Originally Posted by somertime32 (Post 903262)

What is some of the info you have received?

Info about some of the stuff in the ASA contract. We have been working for years to improve certain provisions of our contract and now we are finding out there are a lot of things we took for granted that you guys don't have anything close to. I'm not saying our contract is better in all areas cause its not, but 8 hours ready reserve? Not able to drop trips? This kind of stuff is unacceptable. I hope we can work together to bring a new contract that is up to par with where it should be.

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Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 903272)

I hope we can work together too. I think we have a pretty good opportunity to come out of this with a really good contract.

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Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 903266)

We can straight drop as many trips as we want initially (some months they won't let us take our line below 60 hours depending on staffing). So if I have a 90 hour line I can trade three 4-days for one 3-day if it doesn't take my line below 60 hours if the floor is set for that month. If no floor is set I can trade my entire month for one day trip if I wish, and then rebuild from there.

We might be able to do that in Initial Open time but I've never tried it though. What would be nice if we could just drop all trips into open time and rebuild from there without the trade 3 4 days for one 3 day jugular.

You can drop trips at ASA, you just have to find someone else to pick them up.

Oh yeah, no dual qual! My landings are bad enough as it is, and I don't wanna have to memorize three sets of weights, etc.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 903200)

Captain Tony is right guys. Do the survey, talk to your Reps. Let your voices be heard.

Thanks guys. That was the point of the thread: get folks talking about the contract and to voice their opinions via the survey.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 903194)

It's such BS that Regional guys have to put up with this. At Delta the most junior pilots gets 125 hours of sick pay every year. It's a longevity based system so at some point(8-10 years I think) you cap out at 240 hours of sick time every year. It's use it or lose it sick time.

Now, you can use 300 hours in a rolling 3 year period at 100% & once you exceed that the sick time is paid out at less then 100%, but the Delta Pilot Mutual Aid makes up the difference. Also, if I call in sick for my first trip of the month & end up being sick all month that is ONE sick call. They will just mark me off as sick until I call back and tell them I'm better. Basically I have to 'call in well'.

Sorry for the hi-jack, just wanted to throw it out there. I just can't believe these Regional management jerks get away with this crap. :mad:

Same point and thread hijack disclaimer.

At NJA we accrued 1 sick day per month and had an automated system to use it. If you're sick, you used the blackberry to call it. Same method to call in well, no questions asked. Those same days could be used for personal days through an online system.

I realize it's an apple to oranges thing, but if you're negotiating you need to look at everyone's contract to include the fracs which ALPA may not be doing. There is no reason you should be treated any less professional than we were. You've earned it.

Oh yeah...

There is no reason that you have to have a blended rate for dual qual. Piedmont flies the -100s and -300s under separate captain rates. For the love of God, if you go that route, negotiate separate FO rates as well, and pay protection for the higher aircraft flown. If you have a -300 on your line at PDT and it gets subbed by a -100, you get paid for the smaller frame.

If you guys do it and you're sched for a -700 / -900 but fly a -200, that time must be paid at the higher rate.

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Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 903258)

That's almost our exact contract at ExpressJet.....

Then why did someone post this?? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Jetlinker (Post 903109)

You don't have to provide a doctor's note, however, if you do it is not counted as an occurrence. You're allowed 3 sick calls a year without a doctor's note. On the 4th, you get the nastygram in your v-file, on the 5th, a carpet dance, and the 6th a termination hearing.

Your sick bank accrues 5 hrs. a month....which MUST be preserved in the JCBA.

I could call in sick 10 times in a year & never have to see my Chief Pilot.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 903351)

Then why did someone post this?? :confused:

I could call in sick 10 times in a year & never have to see my Chief Pilot.

Because they were speaking about ASA's policy and were obviously unaware of the XJT contract. Our contract is superior to most major contracts although many of them are reluctant to admit it. Secondly, yes you are correct. If you have a doctors note, you can call in sick as many times per year as you want per the policy. I know, pretty good ain't it? We must fight to preserve things like this! $2 an hour is not worth this!

Fly the 200, get paid for the 200, fly the 700, get paid for the 700, etc... No blended pay rates. Drop and swap as much as you like, as long as it doesn't go below the published minimum block hour. No more than 12 hours on duty...EVER!