Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
ASA/XJT JCBA: No Dual Qual! >

ASA/XJT JCBA: No Dual Qual!

Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

ASA/XJT JCBA: No Dual Qual!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-20-2010 | 06:26 PM
  #81  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 330
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Broheim
The US economy ain't what it used to be, my friend. When was the last time you looked at exchange rates? The figures are in Canadian Dollars, but the Canadian Dollar reached parity with the US Dollar a few years ago and has stayed within about 10 cents of the USD the last few years. Right now it is at 1.01, meaning the USD is worth .01 cents more than the CAD. Yeah, one cent per dollar is really going to make a difference



Again, incorrect. If by "down here" you mean Norfolk, VA/ORF or Atlanta, GA/ATL, then yes, it is more expensive in Toronto. But considering how many regional pilots either live or commute to the trifecta of suck (JFK/LGA/EWR) or CALIFORNIA, I sincerely doubt the cost of living in either of these locations is lower than anywhere in Canada. Last I checked they didn't need rent freezes in Toronto but they did in San Francisco and NYC.



Correct, and that is even with the USD being worth .01 cents/dollar more than the USD. Doing the math, $16,000 USD = $16,291 CAD. So someone working for Colgan gets a whopping $291 per year more if they are in the US versus Canada. When adjusted for exchange rates, Jazz pilots make substantially more than their US counterparts, particularly compared to the regional pilots having to live in high cost of living areas like NYC area, New England or California.

I was not talking about rent in Canada when I say this. How about the taxes, the cost of a gallon of gas (converts to about 4 dollars a gallon right now), food, clothing, buying a car. The list goes on. It is ALL more expensive in Canada. I know FO's making in the 50's flying for Jazz and they can barely scrape by.

They may look like they pay so much better up there but it is not much when you consider the cost of living compared to "down here".
Reply
Old 11-20-2010 | 09:06 PM
  #82  
Avroman's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,142
Likes: 4
From: FIRE ALPA
Default

Very true, living on $50K Canadian in Toronto is like living on about $35K US in Washington DC. Either way you are lucky to afford a dryer box over the subway grate.
Reply
Old 11-21-2010 | 08:04 AM
  #83  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by todd1200
Hey, while we're saving the company money and increasing schedule flexibility, why don't we shoot for quad-qual? I mean CRJ/ERJ -- an RJ's an RJ. Imagine all the cool trip swaps and overnights we could get!
Quad-Qual. hahaha!!!!


Edit:

On a serious note though - I absolutely loved flying at Mesa because we were able to fly the 200/700 and the 900. It changed things up a bit. Of course the pay rate was the same for FO's for all three though. Blah.
Reply
Old 11-21-2010 | 09:00 PM
  #84  
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,934
Likes: 0
From: EMB 145 CPT
Default

Originally Posted by ddornacker
If you provide a doc's note the sick call does not count as an occurrence. If you opt to not get a note then after 4 sick calls in a 12 month period we get a verbal warning, after 5 a written warning, and 6 supposedly term. We accrue 5 hours of sick time a month from date of hire. No graduated rate. Hope this helps. R/David
I think the sixth call is actually a term warning and the seventh would theoretically be term. Although supposedly that has never happened. Also to add, one sick call can be stretched for 14 days.

Originally Posted by todd1200
Hey, while we're saving the company money and increasing schedule flexibility, why don't we shoot for quad-qual? I mean CRJ/ERJ -- an RJ's an RJ. Imagine all the cool trip swaps and overnights we could get!
Originally Posted by IrishTiger
Quad-Qual. hahaha!!!!.
Yeah, this is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned a blended rate. I personally like the IPA model. With the ERJ pay rates being within 1% of the 76 seat rate, the opportunity is here to have a well compensated blended rate for all RJs on property.
Reply
Old 11-21-2010 | 09:08 PM
  #85  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
From: Back to the Right Seat
Default

I am just an outside pilot of the ASA/ ExpressJet merger, and I was wondering how the pilots list will end up merging? Do you think that there will be a need for furloughes or hiring some new guys?
Reply
Old 11-22-2010 | 06:21 AM
  #86  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 929
Likes: 0
From: e190
Default

They have said that the new airline wont need to furlough. ASA is running a couple of classes and xjt has all furloughs recalled. Xjt is also very lean right now. Our charter aircraft are coming back into the CAL/UAL world and that requires more crews.
Reply
Old 11-22-2010 | 02:15 PM
  #87  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,832
Likes: 5
From: 737 Left
Default

There is a current pool and talk of a new hire class for January. Also, according to one of the ground instructors, we are losing about 8 pilots a month right now. That alone will require a new class every 3 months just to keep steady. Any growth on either the ASA or XJT side will apparently require more pilots also. The only thing we know for sure is that you will know that a new class started when they show up for class!
Reply
Old 11-23-2010 | 12:15 AM
  #88  
surreal1221's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Default

Back to the thread topic...

No Concessions.

Dual Qual is a concession for both pilot groups. The End.
Reply
Old 11-23-2010 | 07:02 AM
  #89  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by surreal1221
Back to the thread topic...

No Concessions.

Dual Qual is a concession for both pilot groups. The End.

If credits are based on the higher paying aircraft, explain how it is a concession.
Reply
Old 11-23-2010 | 10:36 AM
  #90  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 423
Likes: 3
From: 717 FO
Default

Increased schedule flexibility means increased QOL. That doesn't fit the definition of concession.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KennyG1700
Flight Schools and Training
40
08-01-2019 12:53 AM
Flyguppy
United
228
10-26-2012 03:23 PM
sl0wr0ll3r
United
115
11-22-2010 03:40 PM
EWRflyr
United
1
10-30-2010 11:51 AM
Superpilot92
Mergers and Acquisitions
3
08-08-2008 08:01 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices