Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 910807)

[I have no idea what I'm talking about but this is an idea]

If they sent out 54 recall notices they'd only get about 15 yes responses...then they'd have to wait another two weeks and repeat the same action for another 39 guys....which they would get even less yes responses...and so on. It's been 2 years at a miniumum for the furloughed so maybe mgmt is thinking "well we know most people have moved on to better and brighter things....or are already flying for other airlines so we might as well ask everyone."

Also you noticed that the wording is pretty open ended as to how many guys might be needed. "We are also planning classes for Feb and March." Might mean they just want to know in case they indeed DO need more than 54 warm souls.

[/like I said, I have no idea whats going on but it's a thought]

Originally Posted by JayHub (Post 910857)

Hey Bud, I agree somewhat...but rumor is that there aren't as many deferrals as they thought. Many people like myself found a job after their furlough...(luckily)...but that doesn't mean they don't want to get back to flying airplanes.

Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 910856)

Yes it was kind of odd that it doesn't say how many they need. It's like they enjoy giving false hope right around the holidays.

Originally Posted by JayHub (Post 910857)

Hey Bud, I agree somewhat...but rumor is that there aren't as many deferrals as they thought. Many people, like myself found a job after their furlough...(luckily)...but that doesn't mean they don't want to get back to flying airplanes.

Food for thought: some guys 'flying at other airlines' had to resign their seniority number. I know waterskiers that went to Mesaba had to. These folks are not on the up to date seniority list that i saw....I believe about 130ish were on the furlough list including voluntary furlough guys.

In any case are you planning on staying at the Pear Tree or what?

Originally Posted by JayHub (Post 910865)

Hey Purpleanga,

The message from the union says 54 recalls...yet the company sends out 130 letters? Maybe they've got something up their sleeves?

Originally Posted by P56C (Post 910897)

Maybe 129...They have my correct address and yet I did not get the recall letter.

Had I received the letter I would have to pass until a mandatory recall is out. How should I proceed in this case? Call, ask for my letter and differ it? Or leave it alone since I'll be differing it anyway? Like I said I still plan to come back but not until a mandatory recall is issued.

Thanks and good luck!

Originally Posted by P56C (Post 910897)

Maybe 129...They have my correct address and yet I did not get the recall letter.

Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 911037)

i dont think it matters how many accept the voluntary recall, i think a mandatory recall will be right around the corner once enough of the first wave wash out. washout rates were comical during initial, just wait til we get a couple days of training. also, the last i heard, pear tree has a happy hour room with free beer and food 5-7 m-f. i wanna be in training as long as possible.

Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 910859)

You'd think that the guys on the bottom of the list gave up long ago on recalls and found something else. The guys at the top are probably more willing to stick it out.

Originally Posted by Time2Fly (Post 911332)

This company is ridiculous.. I talked to a flight manager and they did in fact send out 130 letters for only 54 slots, they did this because they did not think very many would accept.. He said a lot more are accepting then they thought would and was not sure what would happen and said the company would be in contact when it knows what the hell its doing. He implied around 40 have accepted and only 10 have deferred so far (roughly 50 responses of the 130)… Back to the waiting game.

Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 911356)

40 in general or 40 from the top of the list? Did he say if everyone has responded wether they accepted or not? If they've only gotten 50 out 130 responses to date that means that the actual recall pilot pool is pretty small.

Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 911339)

The rumor mill here is absolutely incredible!

Originally Posted by Time2Fly (Post 911366)

Sorry where was the rumor? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Time2Fly (Post 911363)

He did not say top bottom or middle so I'd say in general. 40 yes and 10 no is an 80% accept ratio, 80% of 130 pilots is a lot more than 54

Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 911370)

I was commenting on the fact that with this company we will never know anything until they announce it.

At this point anything said by anyone is speculation and rumor. I've heard drastically different acceptance numbers from two different people at this point.

The best thing for everyone to do right now is to just go on living life and not worry about this...I mean come on....remember what happened a year ago? I'm not even worried about it until I get a class date or a "Hey, sorry for getting your hopes up....hope you ain't mad" letter/phone call again.


[dusts shoulders off....I ain't even mad]

Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 911382)

im also very disappointed in saluki for not coming up with some animated .gif that perfectly captures this situation.

Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 911370)

......The best thing for everyone to do right now is to just go on living life....

Originally Posted by gary0724 (Post 911507)

How do we get a hold of a mentor, I have no names or numbers? It would suck to quit my job then wash out of the program :(

Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 911382)

this company could screw up a 2 car funeral. i dont know why they cant take 5 extra minutes and spell out a few details instead of keeping everybody in the dark. .

Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 912136)

oh come on, they need 54 yes responses and then they actually have to match them to the seniority list. it's really really super complicated stuff they're dealing with here, it could take as long as 20 minutes.

I'm wondering if the first classes go senior or junior? They never asked us which classes we'd prefer.

Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 913187)

Been a couple days, anyone heard anything?

Side note...hit a personal record in the gym last night! 315lb barbell back squat!

I've been working on that for almost a year!



LIGHT WEIGHT!

Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 913206)

Heard everyone recalled will be upgraded in one year. :D

Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 913206)

Heard everyone recalled will be upgraded in one year. :D

Originally Posted by Stew75 (Post 913293)

Yep that was a great line when I interviewed oh over 3 years ago.:D

Originally Posted by gary0724 (Post 913834)

I emailed the new chief november 23rd and still have not recieved a reply. I dont even know if he received the info that I wanted to be recalled, crazy.

Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 913753)

Hey, they announced eight whole upgrades yesterday. Woohoo... sigh.

Originally Posted by Positive_Rate (Post 913914)

Wait? In addition to the 16 already announced? Source?

Originally Posted by pgriffin (Post 913981)

No, I think they officially put out a bid for 8 upgrades. I'm guessing this is the first round. Since I'm trying to stay positive, I'm guessing that they just can't pull 16 or 22 (whichever the correct # of upgrades is) right away into one class since they don't have enough FOs to replace them. Lets hope to hear something Monday.