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Old 12-08-2010 | 06:12 PM
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ALPA won't allow that (we tried it). The lawyers are too concerned ALPA will get sued for defamation. Yes, I'm serious.

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ALPA's bordering on worthless. It is so worried about playing nice as companies laugh at how pathetic they are. It def. was not this "play it safe" attitude that founded ALPA. Somewhere along the line it has lost its way.
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Old 12-08-2010 | 07:33 PM
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ALPA won't allow that (we tried it). The lawyers are too concerned ALPA will get sued for defamation. Yes, I'm serious.

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Wow, ALPA is too scared to state facts regarding the job? Telling the public your payscale and work hours, in a completely honest and factual manner, is considered defamation towards your employer?

This is amazing and disgusting for both ALPA and the employer. Completely horrific that conditions considered "defamation," if mentioned, are allowed to exist and that ALPA is too concerned about lawyers to do anything about it.
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Old 12-09-2010 | 04:45 AM
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Sorry guys, XJ MEC has asked that all Mesaba pilots refrain from informational picketing deeming it counterproductive at this time.

As soon as I get the green light I'm there with you though.

And always with you in spirit.

Good luck!
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Old 12-09-2010 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Sorry guys, XJ MEC has asked that all Mesaba pilots refrain from informational picketing deeming it counterproductive at this time.
So much for "unity"
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Old 12-09-2010 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Sorry guys, XJ MEC has asked that all Mesaba pilots refrain from informational picketing deeming it counterproductive at this time.

As soon as I get the green light I'm there with you though.

And always with you in spirit.

Good luck!
wow seriously? the mighty mesaba mec who was here to show us how it's done is worried about the picketing being counter productive? weird.
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Old 12-09-2010 | 06:02 AM
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I know it'll bite me for saying it but that was HORRIBLE politics. We had a great chance to get 9E and XJ guys together and work through the negative stereotypes that some had and this just torpedoed that chance. The company works on "divide and conquer", XJ just walked into their playbook. Learn from the past folks. Going forward requires a new strategy because the old one didn't work.
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Old 12-09-2010 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by higney85
I know it'll bite me for saying it but that was HORRIBLE politics. We had a great chance to get 9E and XJ guys together and work through the negative stereotypes that some had and this just torpedoed that chance. The company works on "divide and conquer", XJ just walked into their playbook. Learn from the past folks. Going forward requires a new strategy because the old one didn't work.
What strategy has worked for the last 6 years at 9E? And not getting a contract is not a strategy. Maybe you guys need a new strategy.
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Old 12-09-2010 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by higney85
I know it'll bite me for saying it but that was HORRIBLE politics. We had a great chance to get 9E and XJ guys together and work through the negative stereotypes that some had and this just torpedoed that chance. The company works on "divide and conquer", XJ just walked into their playbook. Learn from the past folks. Going forward requires a new strategy because the old one didn't work.
It's just a huge difference in perspective.

While I agree with them that this is not the time while talks are still progressing forward, I was willing to show my support for the 9E pilot group.
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Old 12-09-2010 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by indapit
What strategy has worked for the last 6 years at 9E? And not getting a contract is not a strategy. Maybe you guys need a new strategy.
reread the last sentence of my post.
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Old 12-09-2010 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by higney85
reread the last sentence of my post.
The XJ strategy has worked. It is proven. Look at our 2006 and bankruptcy agreements. Then compare that to what you are working under. Why wouldn't I trust the XJ MEC? We all just got 4% raises to make the current pay gap even larger than it was before.

I really don't think that because you are ****ed off, you need to picket. It has taken you guys how many years of negotiating and what do you have to show for it. Some agreements that are as good as the management mouths that they came out of. Maybe the 9E MEC needs a little lesson on this stuff as following their past tactics might not be the best. No one wants to negotiate for another 6 years so I will continue to back my MEC (XJ) becuase I have much more confidence in them.
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