I guess college lets out in March these days?

 

Nope, the Colgan crash put the ATP as the requirement and added rest-rules, but didn't set any requirement on how many hours were necessary for the ATP as far as I know...

 

I was in class there about 6 months ago , and no one had less then 3000 total time. I dont think there taking the 250s quite yet. But as hiring picks up, every regional out there will. What ever the legal FAA mins are they will take it , it's all about supply and demand. Right now the demand is just starting to pick up. Wait till the regionals really start loosing people .

 

Is it still 1500 hours?

 

August 2013 is when 1500 becomes law.

Until then mins will be somewhere in between the current laws and whatever the regionals can get away with...

 

Just re-read the bill, didn't see section 217 the first time. 1500hrs + ATP is the law. We'll see if both stick...

 

Exactly. Most people think that it is just 1500 hours. As a CFI, 1500 hours is not that difficult to get. I'll be there end of year...but it is the XC time that scares me. Most CFIs at my school who have over 1500 or even 2000 hours are not even close to 500 hours of 50nm XC time.

This means most people will have to CFI for a bit and then do 135 for a bit then go 121. Which, I am sure will make some people on here giddy as a school girl. However, that makes the road from entry to 121 even longer (again, giddy as a school girl) which given the looming pilot $40r7@93 spells even more problems for staffing. I know the Pilot S-word is very taboo around here but given the numbers retiring, it seems that this is going to make a pool of FOs very small. Especially with the ever shrinking 135 world.

If they are having problems filing classes now, Imagine what it will be like in several years. People always talk about there will only be a shortage of qualified people willing to work at sub standard rates. But the thing is, there just may as well be a shortage of QUALIFIED only people (ATP), regardless of the rate they want to work for. People think this will raise pilot pay rates, but even if Regional XYZ offers $100/duty hour, if people don't have the ATP they will not be eligible.

 

the 50 plus nm is only for commercial requirements. for ATP purposes, all you have to do is land at a different airport or shoot an approach at a different airport (can be low approach). hope this helps...

 

You have to fly at least 50nm away from your departure airport for ATP xc. Don't have to land or even shoot an approach. Just takeoff, fly 50nm away, turn back and it counts.

 

Yeah, point to point is for 135 stuff. I was worried that with the ATP, since the student is doing the landing, I couldnt log it as XC time. But then I remember that it is just the distance and that a landing is not included. But again, CFIs - don't just be wasting your students time to get that XC. I doubt many would, but some may.