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Old 03-19-2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by toomanyrjs
It doesn't happen more often at the mainline level. It just makes the news more often. A drunk 777 captain in some far off city is a more exciting headline as opposed to a drunk regional punk in Des Moines.
Why does the regional pilot have to be a punk? Why go there...?
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Old 03-20-2011 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by yamahas3
United needs to be the one that takes the heat.
You're right, united should be the party responsible!!! never the person that was actually(accused)flying drunk!!! it's easier to point the finger than to take responsibility for your own actions!

I should tell my neighbor to tell the bank that its his employer's responsibility to pay his $800k mortgage because he only makes $15/hr.
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Old 03-20-2011 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gearcrankr
Joe still keep in touch with the rest of the crew? I heard the FO is a captain at Polar.
The Capt got rehired at NWA and retired as a Captain on the 747 I believe

EDIT: found article

Lyle Prouse
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Old 03-20-2011 | 07:50 AM
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The Avweb piece is a good read, Thanks for posting. A lot of us have been given a second chance, and are usually better people as a result. "If you ever need anything, call me" can
oftentimes come in quite handy.
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Old 03-20-2011 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blastoff
The story makes it sound like his CA turned him in. Interesting...
AND, why wouldn't a captain turn him in if he did indeed was under the influence? And vice versa?
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Old 03-20-2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I think the PERSON should be taking the heat.
I'm sure that both the contractor, and the parent company, both did everything they could do to put policies into place, showed them all the right films, provided all the different courses and counselors to people if they had problems, etc....... AND STILL a certain person decided to break all of the regs/guidelines/procedures/ and laws to fly drunk (if this is actually the case)
How about we blame this person's parents too while we're at it for not raising him properly?

Personal responsibility is dead.

FlyJSH - you are correct, yet I thought a reason the lawyers usually went after the contracting company was because they generally went after whoever had the deepest pockets - and that is usually the parent company.

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Nicely said!

Now just wait till Lyle Prouse shows up here and tries to 'rationalize' how this happens.
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Old 03-20-2011 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by clipperskipper
The Avweb piece is a good read, Thanks for posting. A lot of us have been given a second chance, and are usually better people as a result. "If you ever need anything, call me" can
oftentimes come in quite handy.
Lyle Prouse should never have been allowed to fly after that flight from FAR!

When he and his crew flew drunk from Fargo to MSP, it was a deliberate 'act'...the entire story 'he' has presented to the world doesn't tell the 'true' story.

But, most pilots on this board and 'pprune' seems to be impressed by his story simply because he was a 747 Captain for NWA.

On a different note: does it really matter if 'United' or 'Delta' or 'American' names are used...it's not that the 'major' airline pilots have 'never' been caught trying to fly drunk. You guys need to read more!
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Old 03-20-2011 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Glide
AND, why wouldn't a captain turn him in if he did indeed was under the influence? And vice versa?
Better yet, why did the captain ever let the flight leave? Protect your crew from their own stupidity. Pull of a placard, ground the damn thing. I would think that if you took off knowing the other guy was intoxicated on an aircraft that requires two crew members makes you a party to the crime and at the end of the day can end up burning you as well. If the guy really wants to fly drunk, don't take off, don't push off. Get it taken care of.
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Old 03-20-2011 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Glide

Now just wait till Lyle Prouse shows up here and tries to 'rationalize' how this happens.
Your ignorance is impressive.
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Old 03-20-2011 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Glide
Lyle Prouse should never have been allowed to fly after that flight from FAR!

When he and his crew flew drunk from Fargo to MSP, it was a deliberate 'act'...the entire story 'he' has presented to the world doesn't tell the 'true' story.

But, most pilots on this board and 'pprune' seems to be impressed by his story simply because he was a 747 Captain for NWA.

On a different note: does it really matter if 'United' or 'Delta' or 'American' names are used...it's not that the 'major' airline pilots have 'never' been caught trying to fly drunk. You guys need to read more!
Actually most of us are impressed by his determination and drive to get back on the horse after he made life changes and paid his debt to society.

He just as easily could have been released from prison, picked up the bottle again and gotten lost in oblivion...

But then again I suppose that you're a perfect pilot and never made any mistakes in your life.
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