Great Lakes....YGBSM!!
04-17-2011 | 07:27 PM
#31
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From: "Part of the problem." : JL
Restating the obvious:
The OP is way off base.
Lakes was, is, and always will be known for their treatment (lack there of) of their pilots.
I flew for them for 6 months back in 1999 (they didnt have a training contract back then)
Lakes was the first place that "said yes" and I was sick of CFIing and knew it was time to move on.
You should appreciate the fact that they are being honest about what kind of outfit they are.
The OP is way off base.
Lakes was, is, and always will be known for their treatment (lack there of) of their pilots.
I flew for them for 6 months back in 1999 (they didnt have a training contract back then)
Lakes was the first place that "said yes" and I was sick of CFIing and knew it was time to move on.
You should appreciate the fact that they are being honest about what kind of outfit they are.
04-17-2011 | 08:48 PM
#32
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I gotta say, I agree with the OP.
I recently got interview offers from Delta, Spirit, Virgin America, and Jet Blue. They sent me similarly informative emails. Being up-front as this was disgustingly offensive to me as well so I reacted just like the OP did.
I sent emails back to them asking how they expected me to leave a place with a complete lack of communication for one that actually has the audacity to tell me what I should expect!
No one tells me what to expect but me!
I recently got interview offers from Delta, Spirit, Virgin America, and Jet Blue. They sent me similarly informative emails. Being up-front as this was disgustingly offensive to me as well so I reacted just like the OP did.
I sent emails back to them asking how they expected me to leave a place with a complete lack of communication for one that actually has the audacity to tell me what I should expect!
No one tells me what to expect but me!
04-18-2011 | 08:00 AM
#34
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From: Bus FO
04-18-2011 | 12:36 PM
#35
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yea and any captain at lakes right now that has 1000hrs PIC + needs to leave...go get another job so they provide growth for others!
I don't wanna hear about sideways moves to a RJ or crap like that....your not going to hired by SWA right now to much competition out there....once you got your 1000 PIC go get some jet time!
I don't wanna hear about sideways moves to a RJ or crap like that....your not going to hired by SWA right now to much competition out there....once you got your 1000 PIC go get some jet time!
04-18-2011 | 01:12 PM
#36
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
So I get this email today. I know you shouldnt read tone into an email, but just the way this read made me think these guys are a bunch of pricks. I HOPE I AM WRONG for those of you that work there, but they dont pay enough for me to put up with stuff like this.
I wrote back recommending that they adjust the way they correspond with people realizing that people come to them for a quick touch and go to build hours, but people dont deserve to be treated like this.
Note the NO PAY for training and Williston ND or NM....***!!
email below:
This email has been sent in response to your resume submitted in consideration of a Pilot position with Great Lakes Airlines. We have reviewed your credentials and are very interested in speaking with you about our current openings*.
*Please be advised that the following minimums must be met prior to scheduling an interview:
• At least 80 hours logged in the last 6 months
• At least 35 hours logged in the last 90 days
• Current ratings:
o Multi-engine (3 take-offs/landings in last 90 days)
o Instrument (6 approaches in last 6 months)
If you do not meet the above minimum requirements, please reply to this email noting which minimum(s) you do not currently meet. You will receive an email response with an update on the status of your application.
Our junior domiciles are Williston, ND and Farmington, NM. It is highly likely that you will be placed initially at one of these bases. Please reply and let us know if you are not interested in either one of these locations.
If you meet the minimum requirements as described above, and are interested in discussing this opportunity further, please contact me at the number below to set up an interview. Please have your 6 month and 90 day times totaled when calling.
Interviews will be held on 5/6/11 in Denver, CO. Transportation to the interview is not provided.
Additionally class, if selected, lasts 4-6 weeks and is unpaid. However, if selected, hotel accomodations are provided for during class.
We look forward to hearing from you--this offer expires 5 days from the date of this message.
Thank you,
Michelle Zender
I wrote back recommending that they adjust the way they correspond with people realizing that people come to them for a quick touch and go to build hours, but people dont deserve to be treated like this.
Note the NO PAY for training and Williston ND or NM....***!!
email below:
This email has been sent in response to your resume submitted in consideration of a Pilot position with Great Lakes Airlines. We have reviewed your credentials and are very interested in speaking with you about our current openings*.
*Please be advised that the following minimums must be met prior to scheduling an interview:
• At least 80 hours logged in the last 6 months
• At least 35 hours logged in the last 90 days
• Current ratings:
o Multi-engine (3 take-offs/landings in last 90 days)
o Instrument (6 approaches in last 6 months)
If you do not meet the above minimum requirements, please reply to this email noting which minimum(s) you do not currently meet. You will receive an email response with an update on the status of your application.
Our junior domiciles are Williston, ND and Farmington, NM. It is highly likely that you will be placed initially at one of these bases. Please reply and let us know if you are not interested in either one of these locations.
If you meet the minimum requirements as described above, and are interested in discussing this opportunity further, please contact me at the number below to set up an interview. Please have your 6 month and 90 day times totaled when calling.
Interviews will be held on 5/6/11 in Denver, CO. Transportation to the interview is not provided.
Additionally class, if selected, lasts 4-6 weeks and is unpaid. However, if selected, hotel accomodations are provided for during class.
We look forward to hearing from you--this offer expires 5 days from the date of this message.
Thank you,
Michelle Zender
You could not work there....Duhhh!!
04-18-2011 | 05:34 PM
#37
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From: French-Canadian
yea and any captain at lakes right now that has 1000hrs PIC + needs to leave...go get another job so they provide growth for others!
I don't wanna hear about sideways moves to a RJ or crap like that....your not going to hired by SWA right now to much competition out there....once you got your 1000 PIC go get some jet time!
I don't wanna hear about sideways moves to a RJ or crap like that....your not going to hired by SWA right now to much competition out there....once you got your 1000 PIC go get some jet time!
04-18-2011 | 07:08 PM
#38
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From: B747 Driver
Sounds like your typical email response to any aviation job I've ever applied for. Straight forward, to the point with here is what you need and here is what you get.
Wish more places posted like that to let you know exactly what you are getting in to.
So for now I continue to do stalls and falls in the mighty DA20 for $78K/year.
Wish more places posted like that to let you know exactly what you are getting in to.
So for now I continue to do stalls and falls in the mighty DA20 for $78K/year.
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