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higney85 07-30-2011 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1031452)
They could open up more -200 Captain vacancies along with the displacement of the Saab pilots, this could help you.
The chips will fall where they fall. I have been rather "upbeat" by the future possibilities, but if I (as a 9E guy) get bumped out of my seat/base by XJ guys off the Saab it's going to be quite a personal battle to hold my thoughts. Looking at the staffing everyone should be able to be absorbed, but that doesn't mean anything because it makes sense.

Bartok 07-30-2011 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 1031460)
The chips will fall where they fall. I have been rather "upbeat" by the future possibilities, but if I (as a 9E guy) get bumped out of my seat/base by XJ guys off the Saab it's going to be quite a personal battle to hold my thoughts. Looking at the staffing everyone should be able to be absorbed, but that doesn't mean anything because it makes sense.
I don't know what to tell you.

I have my own demons with this thing.

As a 10 year XJ guy, I bid the same as someone at 680 on 9E's old seniority list after the SLI.

higney85 07-30-2011 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1031468)
I don't know what to tell you.

I have my own demons with this thing.

As a 10 year XJ guy, I bid the same as someone at 680 on 9E's old seniority list after the SLI.
You would be just above me then. Everyone is mad, I guess that makes it "OK".

Avroman 07-31-2011 05:09 AM
Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1031410)
The next Vacancy should be very interesting.

I hear multi-class bid with DTW and MEM SF340 going away at the same time.
I hope not, that would ruin my plans to bid a Saab CA/FO seat and wait this mess out longer while in training keeping my 900 pay.

Bartok 07-31-2011 06:43 AM
Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 1031471)
You would be just above me then. Everyone is mad, I guess that makes it "OK".
Just above you and that means you've been there half as long as me.

Yeah, I feel ok.

Bartok 07-31-2011 06:53 AM
Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1031562)
I hope not, that would ruin my plans to bid a Saab CA/FO seat and wait this mess out longer while in training keeping my 900 pay.
SF340 in MSP until dec, or LGA until the spring.

I have also heard the vacancy will have openings for SF340 for Colgan Saabs. These positions should be outside the fenced slots allowing anyone to bid them.

Bartok 07-31-2011 09:29 AM
A friend of mine just pointed out that my above post was wrong. He says that 9E cannot bid Saab captain even if the numbers are above the fenced positions. I did not know this so I looked it up.

For a period of five years beginning with the submission of the Integrated Seniority List, no Pinnacle pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position, and no pre-merger Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 129 Saab-340 captains.
If you use the logic that 9E doesn't have Saabs, then why is the Q400 written like this:

For a period of five years beginning with submission of the integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Mesaba pilots may be awarded or displaced to a Q-400 captain unless Colgan pilots maintain 193 Q-400 captain positions.
Bloch is a dumbass.

MunkyButtr 07-31-2011 11:01 AM
Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1031598)
SF340 in MSP until dec, or LGA until the spring.

I have also heard the vacancy will have openings for SF340 for Colgan Saabs. These positions should be outside the fenced slots allowing anyone to bid them.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and declare that the first vacancy will be an absolute mess/disaster and will aslo include 9 revisions (+/- 3.5) before all is said and done. I feel for the pencil pushers who will have to comb over these awards to make sure they comply with Bloch's ridiculous "fences." Should be fun to watch though, this is when the real "I got hosed/screwed/%&$#ed!!!!!" will start flying around. The newbies will get to watch an airline implode from the inside out. Pop the corn and set up the washers games. Gonna be a bloch party.

Av8tion 07-31-2011 05:03 PM
Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1031707)
Gonna be a bloch party.
Nominated for Post of the Week....

With current staffing levels... how many of the fences are actually in force right now? I know the Q400 one will be in place a VERY long time, but I'm curious about some of the other ones...

Flyguy01 08-03-2011 09:44 AM
What can Saab new hires expect for jr bases? Dtw? I'm asking due to the post in "hiring News" stating most pinnacle new hires will be going to the Saab.


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