SIC limitation removed
12-04-2011 | 04:50 PM
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From: CRJ / DHC 8
What does a SIC type do for you anyway ?? I thought it only had something to do with international rules should you happen to fly to a location outside of the US. I know I have one for the D8, and the only reason I got it was because we flew to Mexico.
12-04-2011 | 04:57 PM
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12-04-2011 | 06:47 PM
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12-04-2011 | 09:32 PM
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From: Ridin' shotgun
I ran into someone a year ago that had the same thing. He had an SIC in a Citation, and then got his ATP later on and his new FAA certificate did not have the SIC limitation on it. I really wouldn't worry too much about getting it fixed. Just don't go fly as PIC on the plane until you get the appropriate training.
12-04-2011 | 10:27 PM
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From: King Air 200 CA Hawker 800/900 FO
Make sure you're not getting SIC type rating and type rating with PIC limitations confused. An SIC allows you to act as ONLY as SIC until appropriate training and checkride takes place for a PIC rating. A PIC type with a PIC limitation is different.
When I got my first PIC type there was a limitation indicating that I could only exercise my PIC privileges when flying with another PIC typed pilot. In order to have that limitation removed I flew our empty legs left seat with a qualified captain. After min 25hrs made an appointment with the FSDO with a new 8710 and was issued a full type without any further training events.
When I got my first PIC type there was a limitation indicating that I could only exercise my PIC privileges when flying with another PIC typed pilot. In order to have that limitation removed I flew our empty legs left seat with a qualified captain. After min 25hrs made an appointment with the FSDO with a new 8710 and was issued a full type without any further training events.
12-05-2011 | 01:49 AM
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Actually it's just a label which is applied to the 121 SIC training you get anyway. The label meets the letter of the ICAO law. For those of us who were FO's when the rule was enacted all we had to do was fill out an 8710 based on our last PC.
12-05-2011 | 03:22 AM
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It's likely the 8710 (and the temp. certificate) were filled out properly, and OKC just got it wrong. They're good folks, but they do make mistakes. Happens more often than you'd think. I got a AMES rating added to my ATP when it in fact was a commercial ride. A student took and passed the private rotorcraft helicopter ride (initial); the permanent ticket read ASEL.Nevertheless and regardless, do as I did - give OKC a call and tell them of the error. They'll send a corrected certificate. IIRC 405-954-3261 .
12-05-2011 | 07:19 AM
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One interesting thing though - a single pilot type is different than a crew type. I have a C-510S (Citation Mustang) type as a single pilot. I CAN'T legally fly as a flight crew with someone who has a C-510 type unless he/she isn't functioning as a crewmember. Strange huh?
12-05-2011 | 07:58 AM
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One interesting thing though - a single pilot type is different than a crew type. I have a C-510S (Citation Mustang) type as a single pilot. I CAN'T legally fly as a flight crew with someone who has a C-510 type unless he/she isn't functioning as a crewmember. Strange huh?
The single pilot types I know of allow you to fly either as crew or single pilot.
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