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The Juice 12-19-2011 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1104570)
I'm a little slow, so let me be sure I understand this....

ONLY AFTER the unions agree to a cut,
THEN the non union employees pay will be cut.

Just out of curiosity, aren't all senior management NON union?

IF our leaders truly want to lead, start the pay cuts at the top!

Whoa whoa whoa, you aren't supposed to look behind the curtain and see how it is done. How dare you!

It's the equivalent of "Show me yours and I'll show you mine."

The Juice 12-19-2011 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1104573)
Ahhh thanks Juice... This guy is bipolar and or slow... this little ones not worth the effort, come let me buy you a drink.

Funny that this 5% pay cut may be the one thing to actually unify our pilot group.

PCLCREW 12-19-2011 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1104576)
Funny that this 5% pay cut may be the one thing to actually unify our pilot group.

yep I agree... Great time for us to unify, bad for mgnmnt ;)

lolwut 12-19-2011 07:18 PM

If they're going to declare bankruptcy and get concessions from you guys, its going to happen no matter what happens here. You can take cuts now and take even more cuts later, or you can just play chicken with them and see if they'll actually go the bankruptcy route.

Pinnacle pilots fought way too hard for way too long making way too little money to ever EVER give anything back to that company. Make all the money you can til the last day, don't give a single cent. Make them realize they're looking to the wrong people for money to fix their own mistakes.

And you need to make it clear to your union leadership that giving even a single inch on any issue will result in a decertification of ALPA. Concessions cannot be tolerated.

dingo222 12-19-2011 07:55 PM

play chicken with these assho .. les. We dont give a single cent before the other employee groups give it up first. Look at the history of other pilot groups and concessions. F-U Menke. You want my cash? Lead by example. DO as I've done or I was willing to do first. That worked for me in Iraq, Kosovo and Bosnia. It should work for you numbnuts.

sinsilvia666 12-19-2011 07:56 PM

Absolutely no pay cut period.

dingo222 12-19-2011 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by sinsilvia666 (Post 1104613)
Absolutely no pay cut period.

tell everyone you know to let their reps know where they stand. This is imperitive.No Concessions.

Past V1 12-19-2011 08:03 PM

I will ride my 5% all the way to the scene of the crash!!! STFD!!!

Go ask Delta for a 5% raise!!!

These management types are a piece of (:::::)

nancy33 12-19-2011 08:09 PM

I would take a 10% pay cut for a year and get it back it anyone who is non union that makes over 100K takes a 50% pay cut for 2 years

BS in proflight 12-19-2011 08:20 PM

I agree with the NO to pay cuts. Whats the math on the financial trouble we are in? How do we even know this gets us close to staying out of Bankruptcy? Seems to me that management already knows which direction this is all going "bankruptcy". If they were serious about keeping us out they would not offer to match our 5% after we agree to the cut. They would be leading by example and taking a bigger hit. This is all smoke in mirrors and part of the play book to get labor groups ****ed at each other before going to the courts. Keep the cash in our pockets as long as we can. ALPA this is your chance to show not only Pinnacle but all regionals that we are at our bottom line already and the only direction to go is up. What happened to "taking it back" campaign?? Don't tell me its now turned to "Giving it Back"...


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