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Three Green 12-20-2011 07:37 AM

Keep in mind if you accept the 5% pay cut, the payroll tax cut which is about $1000 dollars a year will be expiring and taking a chunk of change out of your wallet. Plus in BK,the judge is going to whack you some more. Say hell no.

B00sted 12-20-2011 07:45 AM

I'm not taking a paycut when we have a lot of pilots sitting at home for 3 months not getting paid, because of poor management decisions. Not my problem.

gonyon 12-20-2011 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1104804)
This thing is looking like another sham BK so Delta can start pulling 50 seaters. Then they will blame the company's demise and furloughs on us also.

+1. i think this is what is going on. its the backdoor way of delta getting rid of 50 seaters. according to that bloomberg article their scheduling changes cost pncl 12.7 million last year now they will dispute any request for higher payments watching the time runout for pncl. If we take cuts, they'll just drag it out longer but they will win.

cl601pilot 12-20-2011 08:31 AM

Look on the bright side guys, you probably won't have to take the wage reduction. The stock is at $0.86 right now. At this rate the stock will probably be delisted and the company crater before Sean can line his golden parachute off your backs.

JetA Heartburn 12-20-2011 08:58 AM

Pilots should take a 10% cut and give another 10% more to the union because the union will take care of us till the day we die!!

lolwut 12-20-2011 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1104836)
Last leg. full boat. Parking A13. 18R. Tight commute. M6

Thats always a great reason to scare the living daylights out of 50 people who pay your salary.

Al Czervik 12-20-2011 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1104907)
Thats always a great reason to scare the living daylights out of 50 people who pay your salary.

Was explaining it. Don't shoot the messenger.

jayray2 12-20-2011 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 1104883)
+1. i think this is what is going on. its the backdoor way of delta getting rid of 50 seaters. according to that bloomberg article their scheduling changes cost pncl 12.7 million last year now they will dispute any request for higher payments watching the time runout for pncl. If we take cuts, they'll just drag it out longer but they will win.

I would agree with this if I knew this would work for sure. But will it work? 9E doesn't lease the planes, Delta does. If Pinnacle declares Delta can pull the flying, from what I understand, but Delta is still stuck with the plane leases. Wouldn't Delta have to declare bankruptcy to get out of the leases?

On another note, staring a furlough in the face I want to make as much money as I can before going on unemployment. Taking a pay cut now means that my unemployment amount is based on less pay, like maxing out a pension, the more money you make now the more you'll get from unemployment.

B200 Hawk 12-20-2011 09:45 AM

^there goes people dropping the f word again. There will need to be substantial reduction in flying for that to happen. Come on man.

Fly782 12-20-2011 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 1104926)
I would agree with this if I knew this would work for sure. But will it work? 9E doesn't lease the planes, Delta does. If Pinnacle declares Delta can pull the flying, from what I understand, but Delta is still stuck with the plane leases. Wouldn't Delta have to declare bankruptcy to get out of the leases?

On another note, staring a furlough in the face I want to make as much money as I can before going on unemployment. Taking a pay cut now means that my unemployment amount is based on less pay, like maxing out a pension, the more money you make now the more you'll get from unemployment.

Can you collect unemployment if you get F'ed?


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