Thats great and all, but until ALPA realizes that they left off the second half of that statement, it doesn't mean anything. The second half being "If this does not occur, each pilot will be compensated X credit hours per calendar day that paychecks are late."

So I guess it wouldn't just be a statement that management has the money and the employees don't. Sure, it was just a bank error.

Rumor has it that First Tennessee didnt want to release the funds because some of the banks (which I thought were FDIC insured) could not guarantee the funds being transfered in...??? I heard that this afternoon...

Source? I had my check Saturday. This isn't the first time I've seen a screwup for the MLK holiday. Happened twice when I worked for RP. Everybody forgets this is a Federal holiday.

Not everybody forgets its a holiday. MLK was shot in Memphis. Shame on PCL for their lack of attention to a MAJOR detail. morons.

FDIC insurance has nothing to do with whether there are sufficient funds to meet withdrawal demands (payments / checks) of individual accounts - only that accounts will be made whole (up to a limit) in case banks can not honor demands due to lack of solvency or assets.

Hmmm...that doesn't sound encouraging for our friends at One Commerce Square. I should have known that Menke's corporate photo smiling in a vacant MEM terminal was foreboding.

Just answer the question: r u giving 5% back or not.
If anyone thinks a peddly 5% will "save" or "help" pinnacle, ur sadly mistaken.
Name one time in history that hourly rates of pilots ended an airline-- name one.
This is just a quIck and easy gimmie to mgmnt.
Want that 5%? Min 14 days off for line holders and reserves and time and a half above guarantee.

Very good point. They can't get a single thing right, it doesn't matter if it is the little details or the major details. Vacation, pay, insurance, uniforms, scheduling, training, nothing is done right. This company really doesn't deserve to be in business.

Just to clarify - FDIC insurance covers lack of assets / insolvency of the BANK, not an individual account owner - whether corporate or personal. In this case, it has absolutely nothing to do with condition of the airline.

Carry on here. Back to the Regional Bankers Forum...

Did anyone actually not get paid ontime. Everyone I talk to did.

I did not get paid on time and the captain I was with also did not get paid on time.

I don't know anyone that got paid on time. I've still heard of people not being paid.

Can we give the political correctness a break here? My point was that it is not one of the major holidays and is easily overlooked, and has been overlooked by many companies when it comes to pay issues. At PCL it is not even considered a paid holiday for non union employees. Happens all the time with Columbus Day too, but somehow I don't think you're going to get all worked up over somebody forgetting Columbus Day.

I got paid on time. And mrs Murphy still hasn't called me back from like 6 months ago !!!! Lol

JM is a nice lady. She is the only reason we get paid at all. She has gone above and beyond for me every time there was a problem. Its the underlings that are the issue.

Don't fall for it! I was at Comair for 8+ years and our concessions to "save the company" both outside of bankruptcy and during bankruptcy didn't make a difference. In the end, we still became a shell of our former selves as a company while making significantly less money. Make these jerkoffs actually MANAGE through the mess THEY created. It is not your job to pay for their screwup. Your job is to fly the airplane safely and then go home to your loved ones. Period.

I've been here almost 6 years and, whenever there's a problem. It's been taken care of the same day or the following day. Try email next time. You probably had problems because she use to answer to DW. Blame him, not her.

Has anyone else heard about HR calling people to interview for the 9E side?

It is funny that you ask, because that was the impression I got from jetcareers, but when I asked on here the word was just onto the props...

Well a guy I know at Skywest knows someone who got called recently too...

Oh darn... Props...

Pinnacle Corp is hiring. There are two certificates, but one seniority list. You start at the bottom. The last guy on the list can not currently hold CA, let alone any jet.

:confused: I am not looking at applying, not turning my nose up at props, just wondering if it was true (or not) that there were new hires on anything but props. Just saying I read something on Jetcareers, so when Fly also mentioned something, my interest was piqued you might say. That is all.

Colgan is hiring into props. If you wanna fly a jet expect a 2-3 year waiting list.

LOL I already do :D. So since there are no new hires into the 200, when will there be people filling in behind "old pinnacle" FOs? As of right now, I know there are folks coming ahead of Pinnacle 200 FOs from Colgan and Mesaba (which is fine-bid what you want :) ). But I know a friend of guy :D who was in one the last newhire Pinnacle 200 classes and it seems there is no one filling in behind *them* on the bid packs. Just curious how much longer that would last given the company as a triad is still hiring.

Back to the solver!

All the new hires are going to the props. I have seen nobody come in below me on the DTW bid pack and I have fallen a few numbers because of people bidding to the jet. I'd don't know that it would be a couple of years before a new hire FO could hold the 200, but it would definitely be longer then 1 year.

We were supposed to move to one corporate inverview for all certificates after August '11. Just because Pinnacle HR is calling does not mean you are going to PCL. The Pinnacle pilot recruiters have been working on Colgan interviews since September. For instance, I talked to the Pinnacle recruiters first, then the Mesaba recruiters, and finally Colgan HR. In reality they are all the same.

All the new hires are going to the props because CRJ classes are full with transfers until the fall. By then new hires from last summer at Colgan will be coming up on their one year seat lock, so it is likely they will go to the CRJ when their seat locks are up. Of course this could always change depending on any changes to the 11-09 award and the policy on seat locks.

Figured that was the case, he was just saying they specifically said it was for the CRJ. Just hoping I can make it class in April but it is not looking very likely. Hopefully we get some news soon!:(

Is it looking really backed up at the school house?

It's actually pretty slow. I think the company is procrastinating until they see how this bankruptcy thing pans out before they do the balls to the wall training we had in the fall...

The schoolhouse was a mess last year when Fedex hired away all the ground school staff. What do you you think is going to happen with this situation? The Pinnacle training department has trouble keeping to the training schedule in good times. All these various factors they are being hit with now are going to be a nightmare to contend with.

I'm willing to bet that we'll see new hires in the jet later this year if we actually hire and not furlough when the dust settles. I'm sure we'll save the company a ton of money with a blended FO rate and three year or more seat locks for FO's:)

Just wondering if anyone has heard any updates on discussions with management? Have the roadshows happened yet? Will there be a vote on the concessions coming up?

M.

Still negotiating.

Message from Sean just went out.

You think they could be a little more upfront and quit beating around the dam bush?!

How is it beating around the bush?

The Saab, Q400, Pinnacle ATL 900s are all losing money. It is not sustainable.

That means that they are out the door unless your partners can come to the table.

+1

This is the most information the pilot group has received since the union signed the NDA's and has told us absolutely nothing except that they continue to negotiate with management.

The paragraph about the ISL decision from Bloch not containing fences preventing people from switching certificates is interesting to me. I'm guessing the company really is pushing for fences preventing a pilot from switching between certificates.

This looks like a preparatory message for chapter 11. Sean makes bankruptcy look like the protagonist hero, riding in to save the company. It's definitely going to happen.