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01-27-2012 | 08:18 AM
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Point 2.
Colgan and the Qs-
I am guessing here but I think the SAABs days are numbered. PNCL has already lost about 60 of them. We only have a handful left with orders for more Qs; so I do not think Colgan will bring PNCL down. As Sean said we underbid the Qs but why do you think we will just end the fleet type? UAL loves the Q and it seems that they are getting more of them. Would it be easier for UAL to up the rate on the Q to PNCL or find someone else that will start a new fleet type for less money and go through this again at a later date? While we are in bankruptcy it will be easy for UAL to adjust the rate. Personally I don’t think we will be parking them but who knows… Oh, btw the Q is paid as a CPA.
Colgan and the Qs-
I am guessing here but I think the SAABs days are numbered. PNCL has already lost about 60 of them. We only have a handful left with orders for more Qs; so I do not think Colgan will bring PNCL down. As Sean said we underbid the Qs but why do you think we will just end the fleet type? UAL loves the Q and it seems that they are getting more of them. Would it be easier for UAL to up the rate on the Q to PNCL or find someone else that will start a new fleet type for less money and go through this again at a later date? While we are in bankruptcy it will be easy for UAL to adjust the rate. Personally I don’t think we will be parking them but who knows… Oh, btw the Q is paid as a CPA.
01-27-2012 | 08:26 AM
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In my mind, the future of the Q, hinges on how confident UALCAL is about breaking scope. Notice that really no other airlines want the Q. Cal got it to circumvent scope and get some contracted 70 plus seat lift. the Q probably isn't the money maker, due to reliability and mx costs, that Bombardier claims in its "turbo profits" marketing campaign. Especially the way CJC has been running it. Plus lets face it, the pax do not like it over a crj700 or emb170.
If smisek and gang are confident that they can defeat cal's scope they will let the q 400 die, if not, they will keep it around.
01-27-2012 | 11:55 AM
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They're the corporate equivalent of the first year FO!
In my mind, the future of the Q, hinges on how confident UALCAL is about breaking scope. Notice that really no other airlines want the Q. Cal got it to circumvent scope and get some contracted 70 plus seat lift. the Q probably isn't the money maker, due to reliability and mx costs, that Bombardier claims in its "turbo profits" marketing campaign. Especially the way CJC has been running it. Plus lets face it, the pax do not like it over a crj700 or emb170.
If smisek and gang are confident that they can defeat cal's scope they will let the q 400 die, if not, they will keep it around.
In my mind, the future of the Q, hinges on how confident UALCAL is about breaking scope. Notice that really no other airlines want the Q. Cal got it to circumvent scope and get some contracted 70 plus seat lift. the Q probably isn't the money maker, due to reliability and mx costs, that Bombardier claims in its "turbo profits" marketing campaign. Especially the way CJC has been running it. Plus lets face it, the pax do not like it over a crj700 or emb170.
If smisek and gang are confident that they can defeat cal's scope they will let the q 400 die, if not, they will keep it around.
Bottom line is, United and ALPA will go to arbitration on the 50+ seat scope. Every single one of their competitors has 50+ seat JETS operating on behalf of them. That is reason enough for the arbitrator will rule in favor of United. I don't want to believe it myself, but that is the environment we are going into.
01-27-2012 | 12:13 PM
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Mesa, GoJet, Shuttle America and Skywest all operate 50+ seat aircraft for United. What is your point?
Bottom line is, United and ALPA will go to arbitration on the 50+ seat scope. Every single one of their competitors has 50+ seat JETS operating on behalf of them. That is reason enough for the arbitrator will rule in favor of United. I don't want to believe it myself, but that is the environment we are going into.
Bottom line is, United and ALPA will go to arbitration on the 50+ seat scope. Every single one of their competitors has 50+ seat JETS operating on behalf of them. That is reason enough for the arbitrator will rule in favor of United. I don't want to believe it myself, but that is the environment we are going into.
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