goaround2000

If you're looking for facts I'd suggest staying away from forums, besides it's a free forum, if you don't like the content, don't click on it!

Gunga Galunga

Hey goaround, what is with the ego trip? I'm not jealous. I'm frustrated as many FOs here are. Big difference there chief

goaround2000

Wasn't directed at you, the quote button didn't work, it was directed at the guy with the minimal contribution on page 18.

Gunga Galunga

Well accept my apologies then. I need to cool off from all of this anyway.

JetBlast77

Its actually funny how fired up you ASA guys get when we tell you about our schedules. You think we're not being honest and I honestly don't care. When I tell you I haven't worked a single weekend I haven't wanted to in 6 years, I really don't care if you don't believe me. If you ask me about our schedules I'm going to be honest with you. If you thinking I'm lying because your schedules are so bad then w/e. I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again: The people that work weekends are people that want to and reserves. MOST reserve lines are over the weekends. Relief line holders get mostly weekend trips. If you decide to be nasty toward us instead of accepting the good situation we have with scheduling and trying to adopt it on your own, then theres nothing I can do about it. The fact is, we get our schedules about 10 days into the previous month, we have the opportunity to improve it to our liking, and we have tons of open time to use throughout the month to trade into should our schedules at home change. Our reserve rules are leaps and bounds better than yours, our contract is way better, and guess what. The latest numbers show our crews cost less per hour and our schedules are way more efficient. Thats right, you read that right. The mighty ExpressJet that you guys have been programed to think is too expensive and causing the company to lose money is actually cheaper than the almighty ASA. Get over it and start trying to work toward a better situation for yourselves. This crap from you guys is really starting to get annoying.

FlyPurdue

I wanted to clarify a few things per our May phase 2 (relief and reserve) bid package. In Newark - the top 52% will get a relief line. The next 10% will get long call / floating reserve line (more days off). The next 10% will get reserve weekends off. The next 10% will get 2-3 full weekends off. And finally the last 18% will get a lousy schedule awarded with 1 or no weekends off. All of us have been there - but utilizing 'Bad Day / Worse Day trades' that lousy schedule can be modified to help both the pilot, and the company, by increasing coverage.

As I said earlier, since I have held a relief line, I have worked one weekend. I was not awarded a schedule like that - it was using line holder 'Bad day / Worse day' rules and modifying it continuously, once the secondary line improvement window opens. I live in Jersey, and if you are willing to sacrifice commutability on one or both ends - the world is your oyster as far as trips are concerned.

Feel free to PM or ask more about the actual logistics of our bidding system. Just so the senior guys know, us 'new guys,' know how good this system is, and will NOT be voting for any CBA that does not contain the words line bidding.

Cheers!

drrhythm2

Do you think everyone comes here for false rumors? Am I not free to state my opinions like everyone else? I generally like the content; that's why I'm here. However, if I DON'T like the content, the beauty of the forum is that I get to say so. I didn't like another unsubstantiated rumor being started, ergo, I said so. Deal with it.

drrhythm2

You said it . And it's all true .

unit monster

You come off as quite the ego maniac. I looked back a few pages and I don't see any ASA guys toting how great our scheduling is, yet you continue to post on every page about how much better your contract is.

We. Understand. You.

Just one last time: PBS ended up much better than our previous line bidding in many ways. Most people I fly with love it. That said, everyone I fly with is willing to use whichever scheduling method gets the best results.

Having Express Jet guys continually lecture us and cram how great XJT operations is down our throat gets tiring and is now building resentment.

Vertisch

Blanket statements like this are like saying apples cost less than oranges. There are too many factors involved. I think both sides are pretty close; some aspects when XJet is cheaper and some where ASA is. But to simply say one is flat out cheaper than the other is blatantly false.