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View Poll Results: What is Pinnacle's fate?
Pinnacle will negotiate better rates and nothing happens.
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Pinnacle can't reach an agreement with United and it parks the Q's and Saabs.
53
46.09%
My above theory. Or something very similar.
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Pinnacle, Mesaba, Colgan's future. Poll

Old 03-09-2012 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by da_flyn_hawyn
Check this rumor out. I got a text from a fellow pilot saying he saw the CEO of SkyWest in downtown memphis. He claims that they were there for a potential buy. Lets see how far this rumor goes.
That's so retarded, I don't even know where to begin. He just happened to see J.A. in downtown Memphis? A pilot just happened to pick J.A. out of a crowd of people in Memphis's financial district? What... was he hanging outside of PNCL's headquarters? Is anyone really dumb enough to believe such a thing?
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Old 03-09-2012 | 07:36 AM
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I did here from a mesaba jumpseater that pinnacle is going back to jepps !!!!! Makes sense seeing as both them and Colgan use jepps. We should all be on the same page. ....
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Old 03-09-2012 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rightside02
I did here from a mesaba jumpseater that pinnacle is going back to jepps !!!!! Makes sense seeing as both them and Colgan use jepps. We should all be on the same page. ....
OMG.... Skywest uses Jepps too!!!! The rumor must be true!
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Old 03-09-2012 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by da_flyn_hawyn
Check this rumor out. I got a text from a fellow pilot saying he saw the CEO of SkyWest in downtown memphis. He claims that they were there for a potential buy. Lets see how far this rumor goes.
That's so retarded, I don't even know where to begin. He just happened to see J.A. in downtown Memphis? A pilot just happened to pick J.A. out of a crowd of people in Memphis's financial district? What... was he hanging outside of PNCL's headquarters? Is anyone really dumb enough to believe such a thing?
Do have any legitimate reasons why you think it is retarded that someone saw him in Memphis?
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Old 03-09-2012 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
If they can't get merge XJT, ASA and Skywest yet, I hate to see the new mess if it's true.
Surely Jerry's been taking notes. I bet one of his bullet points reads: "FENCE OPERATIONS!!!" (With a double underline)
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Old 03-09-2012 | 08:04 AM
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I think the newspaper article yesterday pretty much says the Saabs are being parked as the EAS contracts expire and someone else picks up the flying.

United would be idiots to not bring more Q's on if they can, things would save them tons of money.
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Old 03-09-2012 | 08:06 AM
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A message from John Spanjers

Hello everyone

Yesterday we filed a Notice of Withdrawal with the Department of Transportation (DOT) to signal that Colgan will not bid to renew Essential Air Service (EAS) flying that we operate on behalf of United Express. We currently serve these markets with Saab aircraft out of Washington Dulles (IAD) and Bush Intercontinental in Houston (IAH). These EAS markets are:
· Altoona, PA (AOO)
· Johnstown, PA (JST)
· Staunton, VA – Shenandoah Valley (SHD)
· Beckley, WV (BKW)
· Clarksburg, WV (CKB)
· Morgantown, WV (MGW)
· Victoria, TX (VCT)

This decision is part of our ongoing efforts to improve operating efficiency and ultimately performance. Eliminating service to these markets will allow us to concentrate our network and focus more resources in the primary areas of our operations.

It’s important to note that we continue to serve these markets for now. Due to EAS regulations, we will remain in these markets until the DOT selects a replacement carrier and a transition date is agreed upon. The earliest we might exit these markets is 90 days from now, and if a new carrier is not selected within the 90-day window we are required to continue service until a new carrier is ready to begin operations. Ultimately, today’s announcement means business as usual for the time being.

We are communicating with every employee who will be impacted when we eventually do exit these markets. Wherever possible we’re working to provide other opportunities for those employees who are interested in staying with Pinnacle Airlines Corp. Those who aren’t interested or able to find other opportunities will be offered a stay incentive in order to maintain safe, reliable operations through the last scheduled day of flying.

Remaining Colgan flying
This decision, combined with our previously-announced decision to eliminate our pro-rate flying with US Airways, will leave Colgan with non-EAS Saab flying out of IAD and IAH supporting United Express. Those Saabs currently serve more than 20 markets. Colgan also operates our Q400s for United Express.

Additionally, Colgan continues to currently serve the US Airways EAS markets of Plattsburg, NY (PBG), Presque Isle, ME (PQI), and Bar Harbor, ME (BHB), along with a daily flight from Boston (BOS) to Albany (ALB) to provide those Saabs a flow into our maintenance facility in ALB. Earlier this week the DOT announced it has selected replacement carriers for these EAS markets, but the timeline for them to begin service has not been set. When the replacement carriers take over those markets, Colgan will no longer operate flights for US Airways.

This will be a difficult milestone in our history. Colgan has been flying for US Airways since 1999, and we’ve maintained a great relationship with them throughout the years.

It’s never easy to end a relationship with a great partner like US Airways, but ultimately these changes are necessary to continue creating a more efficient and reliable network.

We’ll continue to provide updates as we learn more about the progress on selecting replacement carriers for these EAS markets.

John
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Old 03-09-2012 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
If bankruptcy is declared we need to get rid of the LIDO contract. Those updates are a good 2+ hrs a month.
Can I get a HELL YEAH...cause I know finishing my Lido's on final during the Cat 2 is gonna bite me one of these days!
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Old 03-09-2012 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
That's so retarded, I don't even know where to begin. He just happened to see J.A. in downtown Memphis? A pilot just happened to pick J.A. out of a crowd of people in Memphis's financial district? What... was he hanging outside of PNCL's headquarters? Is anyone really dumb enough to believe such a thing?
He was in the elevator with SM at MEM headquarter's...it is not a rumor that he was there...who knows for what but he was / is in MEM.
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Old 03-09-2012 | 08:11 AM
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A message from John Spanjers

Hello everyone

Yesterday we filed a Notice of Withdrawal with the Department of Transportation (DOT) to signal that Colgan will not bid to renew Essential Air Service (EAS) flying that we operate on behalf of United Express. We currently serve these markets with Saab aircraft out of Washington Dulles (IAD) and Bush Intercontinental in Houston (IAH). These EAS markets are:
· Altoona, PA (AOO)
· Johnstown, PA (JST)
· Staunton, VA – Shenandoah Valley (SHD)
· Beckley, WV (BKW)
· Clarksburg, WV (CKB)
· Morgantown, WV (MGW)
· Victoria, TX (VCT)

This decision is part of our ongoing efforts to improve operating efficiency and ultimately performance. Eliminating service to these markets will allow us to concentrate our network and focus more resources in the primary areas of our operations.

It’s important to note that we continue to serve these markets for now. Due to EAS regulations, we will remain in these markets until the DOT selects a replacement carrier and a transition date is agreed upon. The earliest we might exit these markets is 90 days from now, and if a new carrier is not selected within the 90-day window we are required to continue service until a new carrier is ready to begin operations. Ultimately, today’s announcement means business as usual for the time being.

We are communicating with every employee who will be impacted when we eventually do exit these markets. Wherever possible we’re working to provide other opportunities for those employees who are interested in staying with Pinnacle Airlines Corp. Those who aren’t interested or able to find other opportunities will be offered a stay incentive in order to maintain safe, reliable operations through the last scheduled day of flying.

Remaining Colgan flying
This decision, combined with our previously-announced decision to eliminate our pro-rate flying with US Airways, will leave Colgan with non-EAS Saab flying out of IAD and IAH supporting United Express. Those Saabs currently serve more than 20 markets. Colgan also operates our Q400s for United Express.

Additionally, Colgan continues to currently serve the US Airways EAS markets of Plattsburg, NY (PBG), Presque Isle, ME (PQI), and Bar Harbor, ME (BHB), along with a daily flight from Boston (BOS) to Albany (ALB) to provide those Saabs a flow into our maintenance facility in ALB. Earlier this week the DOT announced it has selected replacement carriers for these EAS markets, but the timeline for them to begin service has not been set. When the replacement carriers take over those markets, Colgan will no longer operate flights for US Airways.

This will be a difficult milestone in our history. Colgan has been flying for US Airways since 1999, and we’ve maintained a great relationship with them throughout the years.

It’s never easy to end a relationship with a great partner like US Airways, but ultimately these changes are necessary to continue creating a more efficient and reliable network.

We’ll continue to provide updates as we learn more about the progress on selecting replacement carriers for these EAS markets.

John
To me this is a somewhat good sign, now not tied up in EAS contracts in case we want to pursue other flying.
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